[PVE-User] Very slow install of applications in Windows 2008R2 VM on Proxmox - What is the cause?
Eneko Lacunza
elacunza at binovo.es
Tue Sep 24 08:24:14 CEST 2013
Hi Bruce,
On 23/09/13 17:55, Bruce B wrote:
> Eneko,
>
> VMs are off and results are - I think it was off before too (I have
> some CentOS containers that are on which I can't turn off - production!):
>
> CPU BOGOMIPS: 72530.72
> REGEX/SECOND: 589160
> HD SIZE: 94.49 GB (/dev/mapper/pve-root)
> BUFFERED READS: 100.20 MB/sec
> AVERAGE SEEK TIME: 11.14 ms
> FSYNCS/SECOND: 19.79
Definitely this value is too low. I've never seen such a low value, even
in nodes with working VMs and slower hard disks! :)
Can you mount a sdb partition a run pveperf on that disk? If both disks
are the same model, but values differ, then we could conclude that it's
a sda disk problem.
> DNS EXT: 74.88 ms
>
> I am feeling the pain on Windows big time but nothing bad on
> Containers. *So far we don't have a conclusion if it's the kernel
> issue, HDD issue, or controller issue right?*
> *
> *
> *
> *
> Info asked is below:
>
> root at hp:~# lspci
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5520 I/O Hub to ESI Port (rev 13)
> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI
> Express Root Port 1 (rev 13)
> 00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI
> Express Root Port 3 (rev 13)
> 00:07.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI
> Express Root Port 7 (rev 13)
> 00:09.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI
> Express Root Port 9 (rev 13)
> 00:0a.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI
> Express Root Port 10 (rev 13)
> 00:14.0 PIC: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub System
> Management Registers (rev 13)
> 00:14.1 PIC: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub GPIO and
> Scratch Pad Registers (rev 13)
> 00:14.2 PIC: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub Control
> Status and RAS Registers (rev 13)
> 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB
> UHCI Controller #4
> 00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB2
> EHCI Controller #2
> 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI
> Express Root Port 1
> 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI
> Express Root Port 5
> 00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB
> UHCI Controller #1
> 00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB
> UHCI Controller #2
> 00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB
> UHCI Controller #3
> 00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB2
> EHCI Controller #1
> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 90)
> 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JIR (ICH10R) LPC Interface
> Controller
> 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SATA
> AHCI Controller
This seems to be the controller. Never used this integrated controller
with proxmox, but I don't think it's the reason for low fsyncs...
Cheers
> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. MGA
> G200e [Pilot] ServerEngines (SEP1) (rev 02)
> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82576 Gigabit Network
> Connection (rev 01)
> 05:00.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82576 Gigabit Network
> Connection (rev 01)
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Eneko Lacunza <elacunza at binovo.es
> <mailto:elacunza at binovo.es>> wrote:
>
> Hi Bruce,
>
> pveperf is quite bad. From my limited experience, a tipical 7200
> rpms SATA drive gives 60 fsync/s and >100 MB/sec buffered reads.
> Average seek time is very bad too (~13ms in 7200 rpm drive). If
> you had VMs running, please stop them all and rerun the command.
>
> You shouldn't used this for virtualization unless this problem is
> fixed (you're already feeling the pain eh??)
>
> What hard disk controller do you have? ('lspci')
>
>
> On 23/09/13 16:30, Bruce B wrote:
>> Eneko,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback. It seems that the whole Windows system
>> is slow. It happens with loading applications too and loading
>> start menu for example so if I am understanding this right,
>> viritio drives which are installed after Windows is installed may
>> not help me a lot?! Please correct me if I am wrong. Also how can
>> I build a virtio drive to test it?
>>
>> *Below are results of pveperf. Is this very bad?*
>>
>> root at hp:~# pveperf
>> CPU BOGOMIPS: 72530.72
>> REGEX/SECOND: 583443
>> HD SIZE: 94.49 GB (/dev/mapper/pve-root)
>> BUFFERED READS: 61.13 MB/sec
>> AVERAGE SEEK TIME: 29.30 ms
>> FSYNCS/SECOND: 9.63
>> DNS EXT: 70.07 ms
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Eneko Lacunza
>> <elacunza at binovo.es <mailto:elacunza at binovo.es>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bruce,
>>
>> pveperf on the disk (/) ?
>>
>> If you haven't, I think it will help you a lot installing
>> virtio drivers on the Windows guest, then changing VM disks
>> from ide to virtio.
>>
>>
>> On 22/09/13 22:20, Bruce B wrote:
>>> Thanks for feedback Krzysztof and Alexandre. Below are the
>>> info:
>>>
>>> I am using 1x 500GB WD HDD. I can add another one if that
>>> helps - something like: WD5001AALS. Would that help? Where
>>> do you read the IOPS? and what is a good number of IOPS today?
>>>
>>> For VM I am using LOCAL QCOW2 - not sure how virtio drives work.
>>>
>>> Hoping following info help you tell me if I am hitting a
>>> controller bottleneck (meaning I can't help it) or if it is
>>> an HDD problem:
>>>
>>> *-storage
>>> description: SATA controller
>>> product: 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SATA AHCI Controller
>>> vendor: Intel Corporation
>>> physical id: 1f.2
>>> bus info: pci at 0000:00:1f.2 <mailto:pci at 0000:00:1f.2>
>>> logical name: scsi0
>>> version: 00
>>> width: 32 bits
>>> clock: 66MHz
>>> capabilities: storage msi pm ahci_1.0 bus_master
>>> cap_list emulated
>>> configuration: driver=ahci latency=0
>>> resources: irq:50 ioport:d880(size=8)
>>> ioport:d800(size=4) ioport:d480(size=8) ioport:d400(size=4)
>>> ioport:d080(size=32) memory:faffc000-faffc7ff
>>> *-disk
>>> description: ATA Disk
>>> product: WDC WD5001AALS-0
>>> vendor: Western Digital
>>> physical id: 0.0.0
>>> bus info: scsi at 0:0.0.0 <mailto:scsi at 0:0.0.0>
>>> logical name: /dev/sda
>>> version: 05.0
>>> serial: WD-WCATR2413417
>>> size: 465GiB (500GB)
>>> capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
>>> configuration: ansiversion=5 sectorsize=512
>>> signature=00064f12
>>> *-volume:0
>>> description: EXT3 volume
>>> vendor: Linux
>>> physical id: 1
>>> bus info: scsi at 0:0.0.0,1 <mailto:scsi at 0:0.0.0,1>
>>> logical name: /dev/sda1
>>> logical name: /boot
>>> version: 1.0
>>> serial: 8fe2447e-4258-4d39-b7c7-450b66460abf
>>> size: 511MiB
>>> capacity: 511MiB
>>> capabilities: primary bootable journaled
>>> extended_attributes recover ext3 ext2 initialized
>>> configuration: created=2013-08-06 16:38:36
>>> filesystem=ext3 modified=2013-08-09 17:14:18
>>> mount.fstype=ext3
>>> mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=continue,user_xattr,acl,barrier=0,data=ordered
>>> mounted=2013-08-09 17:14:18 state=mounted
>>> *-volume:1
>>> description: Linux LVM Physical Volume partition
>>> physical id: 2
>>> bus info: scsi at 0:0.0.0,2 <mailto:scsi at 0:0.0.0,2>
>>> logical name: /dev/sda2
>>> serial: pqnaJf-WL5Q-kz2z-a3CJ-f6rS-Jxz4-LICwof
>>> size: 465GiB
>>> capacity: 465GiB
>>> capabilities: primary multi lvm2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Krzysztof Bloniarz
>>> <kb0spam at gmail.com <mailto:kb0spam at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Bruce,
>>>
>>> Could you confirm that you are using one 500GB SATA
>>> drive as your storage ?
>>> How many VMs are running on this drive ?
>>>
>>> This SATA drive is capable of 60 IOPS maybe 70IOPS, you
>>> can easily saturate this installing windows apps,
>>> particularly if you run simultaneous VMs on that drive
>>>
>>> To solve your 'performace' problems you have to build
>>> RAID and add more spindles.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> KB
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Bruce B
>>> <bruceb444 at gmail.com <mailto:bruceb444 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> I am seeing very slow install of applications within
>>> a Windows 2008R2 VM that I built with 24Gbs of RAM
>>> (no users on it yet) and the Proxmox server is a
>>> DL160 G6 with Dual L5520 Xeon quad core CPUs. I
>>> don't see why this is acting so slow. I am looking
>>> for suggestions on how to make this work faster.
>>>
>>> Below are my findings of IO stats and HDD
>>> specifications. I would like to know if there is any
>>> hope to this server. I am running Windows 2008 R2 in
>>> IDE0 and QCOW mode.
>>>
>>> *root at hp:~# iostat -xkd 2 (util shows over 97%
>>> below as a program is being installed)*
>>> Linux 2.6.32-22-pve (hp) 09/20/2013 _x86_64_
>>> (16 CPU)
>>>
>>> Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rkB/s
>>> wkB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await r_await w_await
>>> svctm %util
>>> sda 0.00 13.50 0.00 94.50 0.00 9023.25
>>> 190.97 2.41 25.43 0.00 25.43 10.32 97.50
>>> dm-0 0.00 0.00 0.00 13.00 0.00
>>> 52.00 8.00 0.70 54.15 0.00 54.15 6.77 8.80
>>> dm-1 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
>>> 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
>>> dm-2 0.00 0.00 0.00 95.00 0.00
>>> 8913.25 187.65 2.29 24.12 0.00 24.12 10.24
>>> 97.30
>>>
>>>
>>> *hdparm output:*
>>>
>>> ATA device, with non-removable media
>>> Model Number: WDC WD5001AALS-00E3A0
>>> Serial Number: WD-WCATR2413417
>>> Firmware Revision: 05.01D05
>>> Transport: Serial, SATA 1.0a, SATA II Extensions, SATA Rev 2.5, SATA Rev 2.6
>>> Standards:
>>> Supported: 8 7 6 5
>>> Likely used: 8
>>> Configuration:
>>> Logical max current
>>> cylinders 16383 16383
>>> heads 16 16
>>> sectors/track 63 63
>>> --
>>> CHS current addressable sectors: 16514064
>>> LBA user addressable sectors: 268435455
>>> LBA48 user addressable sectors: 976773168
>>> Logical/Physical Sector size: 512 bytes
>>> device size with M = 1024*1024: 476940 MBytes
>>> device size with M = 1000*1000: 500107 MBytes (500 GB)
>>> cache/buffer size = unknown
>>> Capabilities:
>>> LBA, IORDY(can be disabled)
>>> Queue depth: 32
>>> Standby timer values: spec'd by Standard, with device specific minimum
>>> R/W multiple sector transfer: Max = 16 Current = 0
>>> Recommended acoustic management value: 128, current value: 254
>>> DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6
>>> Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns
>>> PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
>>> Cycle time: no flow control=120ns IORDY flow control=120ns
>>> Commands/features:
>>> Enabled Supported:
>>> * SMART feature set
>>> Security Mode feature set
>>> * Power Management feature set
>>> Write cache
>>> * Look-ahead
>>> * Host Protected Area feature set
>>> * WRITE_BUFFER command
>>> * READ_BUFFER command
>>> * NOP cmd
>>> * DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE
>>> Power-Up In Standby feature set
>>> * SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
>>> SET_MAX security extension
>>> Automatic Acoustic Management feature set
>>> * 48-bit Address feature set
>>> * Device Configuration Overlay feature set
>>> * Mandatory FLUSH_CACHE
>>> * FLUSH_CACHE_EXT
>>> * SMART error logging
>>> * SMART self-test
>>> * General Purpose Logging feature set
>>> * 64-bit World wide name
>>> * {READ,WRITE}_DMA_EXT_GPL commands
>>> * Segmented DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE
>>> * Gen1 signaling speed (1.5Gb/s)
>>> * Gen2 signaling speed (3.0Gb/s)
>>> * Native Command Queueing (NCQ)
>>> * Host-initiated interface power management
>>> * Phy event counters
>>> * NCQ priority information
>>> * DMA Setup Auto-Activate optimization
>>> * Software settings preservation
>>> * SMART Command Transport (SCT) feature set
>>> * SCT Long Sector Access (AC1)
>>> * SCT LBA Segment Access (AC2)
>>> * SCT Features Control (AC4)
>>> * SCT Data Tables (AC5)
>>> unknown 206[12] (vendor specific)
>>> unknown 206[13] (vendor specific)
>>> Security:
>>> Master password revision code = 65534
>>> supported
>>> not enabled
>>> not locked
>>> not frozen
>>> not expired: security count
>>> supported: enhanced erase
>>> 102min for SECURITY ERASE UNIT. 102min for ENHANCED SECURITY ERASE UNIT.
>>> Logical Unit WWN Device Identifier: 50014ee2af8fec40
>>> NAA : 5
>>> IEEE OUI : 0014ee
>>> Unique ID : 2af8fec40
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
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