[PVE-User] (no subject)

Martin Holub martin at holub.co.at
Tue Aug 24 19:21:34 CEST 2021


Hi Leandro,

So if you can't schedule a downtime for, at least, some VMs i would add 
a 3rd Box. Also in terms of having a valid Quorum a 3rd Box would be a 
good thing.

About the Upgrade, as Alain pointed out, there is no way to 
accidentially upgrade, at least if you don't put "bullseye" in the 
sources.list manually (like you did, that's why i asked about the 
Upgrade). So just make shure you explicitly use "buster", not "stable" 
or "bullseye" in the Debian repo. If apt still complains about the 
release change just run an update using "apt-get update 
--allow-releaseinfo-change", this should fix things you. If you already 
upgraded some packages from the bullseye repo i would keep things 
running as they are for now (obviously nothing broke by now, so don't 
touch it...) and start planning the Upgrade to 7.0. The Upgrade to 7.0 
was hassle free for the Clusters i ran it by now. Also telling from 
Forum and Mailing Lists, i wouldn't expect any issues as long as you 
don't have any special setups with PCI passthrough Devices or something 
like that.

Best
Martin

Am 24.08.21 um 17:13 schrieb Leandro Roggerone:
> Hello , Martin.
> Im still in pve 6.04.
> I was looking at the document you pointed out (Upgrade from 6.x to 7.0)
> It is frustrating to see that upgrading  is a very difficult process.
> My cluster contains 2 servers.
> Both are in production , at 50 - 60 % storage and memory capacity so 
> it is not easy for me to create backups and move VMs.
>
> I will study how to proceed with this update from pve 6  to 7.
> Perhaps:
> Adding a third new box already running version 7.
> Adding a networking storage ? need to check out wich one.
>
> Meanwhile , until I can go to pve 7 , I think I should upgrate to 
> latest pve 6 and disable automatic upgrades ...
> Do you think it is ok ?
>
> Thanks for your words!!
> Leandro.
>
>
> El mié, 18 ago 2021 a las 14:58, Martin Holub (<martin at holub.co.at 
> <mailto:martin at holub.co.at>>) escribió:
>
>     Hi Leandro,
>
>     Are you already on PVE7? Otherwise, just changing the Sources to
>     Bullseye, i'm pretty shure that this will break things, or at
>     least produce unwanted results. If you want to upgrade to Debian
>     Bullseye better check
>     https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Upgrade_from_6.x_to_7.0
>     <https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Upgrade_from_6.x_to_7.0>
>
>     Best regards
>     Martin
>
>     Am 18.08.21 um 15:19 schrieb Leandro Roggerone:
>>     thanks Martin.
>>     According to documentation , for a non subscription
>>     environment ,this is how it should looks like:
>>
>>     root at pve:/etc/apt# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
>>     deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian <http://ftp.debian.org/debian>
>>     bullseye main contrib
>>
>>     deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian <http://ftp.debian.org/debian>
>>     bullseye-updates main contrib
>>
>>     # security updates
>>     deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security
>>     <http://security.debian.org/debian-security> bullseye-security
>>     main contrib
>>
>>     After running apt-get update from cli , it did not return any error.
>>     seems to be working ok now.
>>     Thanks again.
>>     Leandro.
>>
>>     El mar, 17 ago 2021 a las 11:44, Martin Holub via pve-user
>>     (<pve-user at lists.proxmox.com
>>     <mailto:pve-user at lists.proxmox.com>>) escribió:
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>         From: Martin Holub <martin at holub.co.at
>>         <mailto:martin at holub.co.at>>
>>         To: pve-user at lists.proxmox.com
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>>         Cc:
>>         Bcc:
>>         Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 16:43:30 +0200
>>         Subject: Re: [PVE-User] (no subject)
>>         Hi,
>>
>>         On Aug 14th "Bullseye" was released, therefore Buster moved from
>>         "stable" to "oldstable" and Bullseye became the new "stable"
>>         Version of
>>         Debian.
>>
>>         Cheers.
>>         Martin
>>
>>         Am 17.08.21 um 16:37 schrieb Leandro Roggerone:
>>         > root at pve:~# apt-get update
>>         > Get:1 http://security.debian.org
>>         <http://security.debian.org> buster/updates InRelease [65.4 kB]
>>         > Get:2 http://ftp.debian.org/debian
>>         <http://ftp.debian.org/debian> buster InRelease [122 kB]
>>         > Get:3 http://ftp.debian.org/debian
>>         <http://ftp.debian.org/debian> buster-updates InRelease [51.9 kB]
>>         > Reading package lists... Done
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > E: Repository 'http://security.debian.org
>>         <http://security.debian.org> buster/updates InRelease' changed
>>         > its 'Suite' value from 'stable' to 'oldstable'
>>         > N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this
>>         repository can
>>         > be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
>>         > E: Repository 'http://ftp.debian.org/debian
>>         <http://ftp.debian.org/debian> buster InRelease' changed its
>>         > 'Suite' value from 'stable' to 'oldstable'
>>         > N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this
>>         repository can
>>         > be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
>>         > E: Repository 'http://ftp.debian.org/debian
>>         <http://ftp.debian.org/debian> buster-updates InRelease'
>>         > changed its 'Suite' value from 'stable-updates' to
>>         'oldstable-updates'
>>         > N: This must be accepted explicitly before updates for this
>>         repository can
>>         > be applied. See apt-secure(8) manpage for details.
>>         >
>>         > This is my source.list
>>         > root at pve:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
>>         > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian
>>         <http://ftp.debian.org/debian> buster main contrib
>>         >
>>         > deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian
>>         <http://ftp.debian.org/debian> buster-updates main contrib
>>         >
>>         > # security updates
>>         > deb http://security.debian.org <http://security.debian.org>
>>         buster/updates main contrib
>>         >
>>         > This was working ok until sat 14.
>>         > Any idea ?
>>         > Thanks!
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>>         To: pve-user at lists.proxmox.com
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>>         Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2021 16:43:30 +0200
>>         Subject: Re: [PVE-User] (no subject)
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