[PVE-User] VZdump: No such disk, but the disk is there!

Atila Vasconcelos atilav at lightspeed.ca
Thu Feb 13 23:53:35 CET 2020


Hi,

I had the same problem in the past and it repeats once a while.... its 
very random; I could not find any way to reproduce it.

But as it happens... it will go away.

When you are almost forgetting about it, it will come again ;)

I just learned to ignore it (and do manually the backup when it fails)

I see in proxmox 6.x it is less frequent (but still happening once a while).


ABV


On 2020-02-13 4:42 a.m., Gilberto Nunes wrote:
> Yeah! Me too... This problem is pretty random... Let see next week!
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>
>
>
> Em qui., 13 de fev. de 2020 às 09:29, Eneko Lacunza <elacunza at binovo.es>
> escreveu:
>
>> Maybe check dm-15 permissions, ls -l /dev/dm-15, but really out of ideas
>> now, sorry!!! ;)
>>
>> El 13/2/20 a las 13:24, Gilberto Nunes escribió:
>>> I can assure you... the disk is there!
>>>
>>> pvesm list local-lvm
>>> local-lvm:vm-101-disk-0                raw 53687091200 101
>>> local-lvm:vm-102-disk-0                raw 536870912000 102
>>> local-lvm:vm-103-disk-0                raw 322122547200 103
>>> local-lvm:vm-104-disk-0                raw 214748364800 104
>>> local-lvm:vm-104-state-LUKPLAS         raw 17704157184 104
>>> local-lvm:vm-105-disk-0                raw 751619276800 105
>>> local-lvm:vm-106-disk-0                raw 161061273600 106
>>> local-lvm:vm-107-disk-0                raw 536870912000 107
>>> local-lvm:vm-108-disk-0                raw 214748364800 108
>>> local-lvm:vm-109-disk-0                raw 107374182400 109
>>> local-lvm:vm-110-disk-0                raw 107374182400 110
>>> local-lvm:vm-111-disk-0                raw 107374182400 111
>>> local-lvm:vm-112-disk-0                raw 128849018880 112
>>> local-lvm:vm-113-disk-0                raw 53687091200 113
>>> local-lvm:vm-113-state-antes_balloon   raw 17704157184 113
>>> local-lvm:vm-114-disk-0                raw 128849018880 114
>>> local-lvm:vm-115-disk-0                raw 107374182400 115
>>> local-lvm:vm-115-disk-1                raw 53687091200 115
>>> local-lvm:vm-116-disk-0                raw 107374182400 116
>>> local-lvm:vm-117-disk-0                raw 107374182400 117
>>> local-lvm:vm-118-disk-0                raw 107374182400 118
>>> local-lvm:vm-119-disk-0                raw 26843545600 119
>>> local-lvm:vm-121-disk-0                raw 107374182400 121
>>> local-lvm:vm-122-disk-0                raw 107374182400 122
>>> local-lvm:vm-123-disk-0                raw 161061273600 123
>>> local-lvm:vm-124-disk-0                raw 107374182400 124
>>> local-lvm:vm-125-disk-0                raw 53687091200 125
>>> local-lvm:vm-126-disk-0                raw 32212254720 126
>>> local-lvm:vm-127-disk-0                raw 53687091200 127
>>> local-lvm:vm-129-disk-0                raw 21474836480 129
>>>
>>> ls -l /dev/pve/vm-110-disk-0
>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Nov 11 22:05 /dev/pve/vm-110-disk-0 -> ../dm-15
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Gilberto Nunes Ferreira
>>>
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>>> (47) 99676-7530 - Whatsapp / Telegram
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>>> Skype: gilberto.nunes36
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Em qui., 13 de fev. de 2020 às 09:19, Eneko Lacunza <elacunza at binovo.es>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> What about:
>>>>
>>>> pvesm list local-lvm
>>>> ls -l /dev/pve/vm-110-disk-0
>>>>
>>>> El 13/2/20 a las 12:40, Gilberto Nunes escribió:
>>>>> Quite strange to say the least
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ls /dev/pve/*
>>>>> /dev/pve/root                  /dev/pve/vm-109-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-118-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/swap                  /dev/pve/vm-110-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-119-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-101-disk-0         /dev/pve/vm-111-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-121-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-102-disk-0         /dev/pve/vm-112-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-122-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-103-disk-0         /dev/pve/vm-113-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-123-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-104-disk-0         /dev/pve/vm-113-state-antes_balloon
>>>>>     /dev/pve/vm-124-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-104-state-LUKPLAS  /dev/pve/vm-114-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-125-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-105-disk-0         /dev/pve/vm-115-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-126-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-106-disk-0         /dev/pve/vm-115-disk-1
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-127-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-107-disk-0         /dev/pve/vm-116-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-129-disk-0
>>>>> /dev/pve/vm-108-disk-0         /dev/pve/vm-117-disk-0
>>>>>
>>>>> ls /dev/mapper/
>>>>> control               pve-vm--104--state--LUKPLAS
>>>>>     pve-vm--115--disk--1
>>>>> iscsi-backup          pve-vm--105--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--116--disk--0
>>>>> mpatha                pve-vm--106--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--117--disk--0
>>>>> pve-data              pve-vm--107--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--118--disk--0
>>>>> pve-data_tdata        pve-vm--108--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--119--disk--0
>>>>> pve-data_tmeta        pve-vm--109--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--121--disk--0
>>>>> pve-data-tpool        pve-vm--110--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--122--disk--0
>>>>> pve-root              pve-vm--111--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--123--disk--0
>>>>> pve-swap              pve-vm--112--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--124--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--101--disk--0  pve-vm--113--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--125--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--102--disk--0  pve-vm--113--state--antes_balloon
>>>>>     pve-vm--126--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--103--disk--0  pve-vm--114--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--127--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--104--disk--0  pve-vm--115--disk--0
>>>>> pve-vm--129--disk--0
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Gilberto Nunes Ferreira
>>>>>
>>>>> (47) 3025-5907
>>>>> (47) 99676-7530 - Whatsapp / Telegram
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype: gilberto.nunes36
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Em qui., 13 de fev. de 2020 às 08:38, Eneko Lacunza <
>> elacunza at binovo.es>
>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's quite strange, what about "ls /dev/pve/*"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> El 13/2/20 a las 12:18, Gilberto Nunes escribió:
>>>>>>> n: Thu Feb 13 07:06:19 2020
>>>>>>> a2web:~# lvs
>>>>>>>       LV                               VG    Attr       LSize   Pool
>>>> Origin
>>>>>>>        Data%  Meta%  Move Log Cpy%Sync Convert
>>>>>>>       backup                           iscsi -wi-ao----   1.61t
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       data                             pve   twi-aotz--   3.34t
>>>>>>>        88.21  9.53
>>>>>>>       root                             pve   -wi-ao----  96.00g
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       snap_vm-104-disk-0_LUKPLAS       pve   Vri---tz-k 200.00g data
>>>>>>> vm-104-disk-0
>>>>>>>       snap_vm-113-disk-0_antes_balloon pve   Vri---tz-k  50.00g data
>>>>>>> vm-113-disk-0
>>>>>>>       swap                             pve   -wi-ao----   8.00g
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       vm-101-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz--  50.00g data
>>>>>>>         24.17
>>>>>>>       vm-102-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 500.00g data
>>>>>>>         65.65
>>>>>>>       vm-103-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 300.00g data
>>>>>>>         37.28
>>>>>>>       vm-104-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 200.00g data
>>>>>>>         17.87
>>>>>>>       vm-104-state-LUKPLAS             pve   Vwi-a-tz--  16.49g data
>>>>>>>         35.53
>>>>>>>       vm-105-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 700.00g data
>>>>>>>         90.18
>>>>>>>       vm-106-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 150.00g data
>>>>>>>         93.55
>>>>>>>       vm-107-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 500.00g data
>>>>>>>         98.20
>>>>>>>       vm-108-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 200.00g data
>>>>>>>         98.02
>>>>>>>       vm-109-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 100.00g data
>>>>>>>         93.68
>>>>>>>       vm-110-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 100.00g data
>>>>>>>         34.55
>>>>>>>       vm-111-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 100.00g data
>>>>>>>         79.03
>>>>>>>       vm-112-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 120.00g data
>>>>>>>         93.78
>>>>>>>       vm-113-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz--  50.00g data
>>>>>>>         65.42
>>>>>>>       vm-113-state-antes_balloon       pve   Vwi-a-tz--  16.49g data
>>>>>>>         43.64
>>>>>>>       vm-114-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 120.00g data
>>>>>>>         100.00
>>>>>>>       vm-115-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-a-tz-- 100.00g data
>>>>>>>         70.28
>>>>>>>       vm-115-disk-1                    pve   Vwi-a-tz--  50.00g data
>>>>>>>         0.00
>>>>>>>       vm-116-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 100.00g data
>>>>>>>         26.34
>>>>>>>       vm-117-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 100.00g data
>>>>>>>         100.00
>>>>>>>       vm-118-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 100.00g data
>>>>>>>         100.00
>>>>>>>       vm-119-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz--  25.00g data
>>>>>>>         18.42
>>>>>>>       vm-121-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 100.00g data
>>>>>>>         23.76
>>>>>>>       vm-122-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 100.00g data
>>>>>>>         100.00
>>>>>>>       vm-123-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 150.00g data
>>>>>>>         37.89
>>>>>>>       vm-124-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz-- 100.00g data
>>>>>>>         30.73
>>>>>>>       vm-125-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz--  50.00g data
>>>>>>>         9.02
>>>>>>>       vm-126-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz--  30.00g data
>>>>>>>         99.72
>>>>>>>       vm-127-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz--  50.00g data
>>>>>>>         10.79
>>>>>>>       vm-129-disk-0                    pve   Vwi-aotz--  20.00g data
>>>>>>>         45.04
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> cat /etc/pve/storage.cfg
>>>>>>> dir: local
>>>>>>>             path /var/lib/vz
>>>>>>>             content backup,iso,vztmpl
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lvmthin: local-lvm
>>>>>>>             thinpool data
>>>>>>>             vgname pve
>>>>>>>             content rootdir,images
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> iscsi: iscsi
>>>>>>>             portal some-portal
>>>>>>>             target some-target
>>>>>>>             content images
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lvm: iscsi-lvm
>>>>>>>             vgname iscsi
>>>>>>>             base iscsi:0.0.0.scsi-mpatha
>>>>>>>             content rootdir,images
>>>>>>>             shared 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dir: backup
>>>>>>>             path /backup
>>>>>>>             content images,rootdir,iso,backup
>>>>>>>             maxfiles 3
>>>>>>>             shared 0
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> Gilberto Nunes Ferreira
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (47) 3025-5907
>>>>>>> (47) 99676-7530 - Whatsapp / Telegram
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Skype: gilberto.nunes36
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em qui., 13 de fev. de 2020 às 08:11, Eneko Lacunza <
>>>> elacunza at binovo.es>
>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you send the output for "lvs" and "cat /etc/pve/storage.cfg"?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> El 13/2/20 a las 11:13, Gilberto Nunes escribió:
>>>>>>>>> HI all
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Still in trouble with this issue
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cat daemon.log | grep "Feb 12 22:10"
>>>>>>>>> Feb 12 22:10:00 a2web systemd[1]: Starting Proxmox VE replication
>>>>>>>> runner...
>>>>>>>>> Feb 12 22:10:01 a2web systemd[1]: Started Proxmox VE replication
>>>>>> runner.
>>>>>>>>> Feb 12 22:10:05 a2web vzdump[17390]: INFO: Starting Backup of VM
>> 110
>>>>>>>> (qemu)
>>>>>>>>> Feb 12 22:10:28 a2web vzdump[17390]: ERROR: Backup of VM 110
>> failed -
>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> such volume 'local-lvm:vm-110-disk-0'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> syslog
>>>>>>>>> Feb 12 22:10:05 a2web vzdump[17390]: INFO: Starting Backup of VM
>> 110
>>>>>>>> (qemu)
>>>>>>>>> Feb 12 22:10:06 a2web qm[18860]: <root at pam> update VM 110: -lock
>>>>>> backup
>>>>>>>>> Feb 12 22:10:28 a2web vzdump[17390]: ERROR: Backup of VM 110
>> failed -
>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> such volume 'local-lvm:vm-110-disk-0'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pveversion
>>>>>>>>> pve-manager/5.4-13/aee6f0ec (running kernel: 4.15.18-12-pve)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> proxmox-ve: 5.4-2 (running kernel: 4.15.18-12-pve)
>>>>>>>>> pve-manager: 5.4-13 (running version: 5.4-13/aee6f0ec)
>>>>>>>>> pve-kernel-4.15: 5.4-12
>>>>>>>>> pve-kernel-4.15.18-24-pve: 4.15.18-52
>>>>>>>>> pve-kernel-4.15.18-12-pve: 4.15.18-36
>>>>>>>>> corosync: 2.4.4-pve1
>>>>>>>>> criu: 2.11.1-1~bpo90
>>>>>>>>> glusterfs-client: 3.8.8-1
>>>>>>>>> ksm-control-daemon: 1.2-2
>>>>>>>>> libjs-extjs: 6.0.1-2
>>>>>>>>> libpve-access-control: 5.1-12
>>>>>>>>> libpve-apiclient-perl: 2.0-5
>>>>>>>>> libpve-common-perl: 5.0-56
>>>>>>>>> libpve-guest-common-perl: 2.0-20
>>>>>>>>> libpve-http-server-perl: 2.0-14
>>>>>>>>> libpve-storage-perl: 5.0-44
>>>>>>>>> libqb0: 1.0.3-1~bpo9
>>>>>>>>> lvm2: 2.02.168-pve6
>>>>>>>>> lxc-pve: 3.1.0-7
>>>>>>>>> lxcfs: 3.0.3-pve1
>>>>>>>>> novnc-pve: 1.0.0-3
>>>>>>>>> proxmox-widget-toolkit: 1.0-28
>>>>>>>>> pve-cluster: 5.0-38
>>>>>>>>> pve-container: 2.0-41
>>>>>>>>> pve-docs: 5.4-2
>>>>>>>>> pve-edk2-firmware: 1.20190312-1
>>>>>>>>> pve-firewall: 3.0-22
>>>>>>>>> pve-firmware: 2.0-7
>>>>>>>>> pve-ha-manager: 2.0-9
>>>>>>>>> pve-i18n: 1.1-4
>>>>>>>>> pve-libspice-server1: 0.14.1-2
>>>>>>>>> pve-qemu-kvm: 3.0.1-4
>>>>>>>>> pve-xtermjs: 3.12.0-1
>>>>>>>>> qemu-server: 5.0-55
>>>>>>>>> smartmontools: 6.5+svn4324-1
>>>>>>>>> spiceterm: 3.0-5
>>>>>>>>> vncterm: 1.5-3
>>>>>>>>> zfsutils-linux: 0.7.13-pve1~bpo2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some help??? Sould I upgrade the server to 6.x??
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> Gilberto Nunes Ferreira
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (47) 3025-5907
>>>>>>>>> (47) 99676-7530 - Whatsapp / Telegram
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Skype: gilberto.nunes36
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em qui., 30 de jan. de 2020 às 10:10, Gilberto Nunes <
>>>>>>>>> gilberto.nunes32 at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi there
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I got a strage error last night. Vzdump complain about the
>>>>>>>>>> disk no exist or lvm volume in this case but the volume exist,
>>>> indeed!
>>>>>>>>>> In the morning I have do a manually backup and it's working
>> fine...
>>>>>>>>>> Any advice?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 112: 2020-01-29 22:20:02 INFO: Starting Backup of VM 112 (qemu)
>>>>>>>>>> 112: 2020-01-29 22:20:02 INFO: status = running
>>>>>>>>>> 112: 2020-01-29 22:20:03 INFO: update VM 112: -lock backup
>>>>>>>>>> 112: 2020-01-29 22:20:03 INFO: VM Name: cliente-V-112-IP-165
>>>>>>>>>> 112: 2020-01-29 22:20:03 INFO: include disk 'scsi0'
>>>>>>>> 'local-lvm:vm-112-disk-0' 120G
>>>>>>>>>> 112: 2020-01-29 22:20:23 ERROR: Backup of VM 112 failed - no such
>>>>>>>> volume 'local-lvm:vm-112-disk-0'
>>>>>>>>>> 116: 2020-01-29 22:20:23 INFO: Starting Backup of VM 116 (qemu)
>>>>>>>>>> 116: 2020-01-29 22:20:23 INFO: status = running
>>>>>>>>>> 116: 2020-01-29 22:20:24 INFO: update VM 116: -lock backup
>>>>>>>>>> 116: 2020-01-29 22:20:24 INFO: VM Name: cliente-V-IP-162
>>>>>>>>>> 116: 2020-01-29 22:20:24 INFO: include disk 'scsi0'
>>>>>>>> 'local-lvm:vm-116-disk-0' 100G
>>>>>>>>>> 116: 2020-01-29 22:20:49 ERROR: Backup of VM 116 failed - no such
>>>>>>>> volume 'local-lvm:vm-116-disk-0'
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> Gilberto Nunes Ferreira
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (47) 3025-5907
>>>>>>>>>> (47) 99676-7530 - Whatsapp / Telegram
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Skype: gilberto.nunes36
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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