[PVE-User] VDI on Proxmox anyone?

Dimitris Beletsiotis dimitris.beletsiotis at gmail.com
Tue Oct 6 13:53:26 CEST 2015


Hi there,



Correct me if I am wrong but below solutions (Windows TS and Linux X
clients) are not VDI with Proxmox.


Windows Terminal services and Linux X desktops are totally different and
can be implemented on every virtualization platform (or bare metal).


The advantage of using Proxmox with Spice is the integration between the
virtualization environment and the (thin) client's desktop/experience.

VDI is more appealing on platforms like VMware Horizon where desktop and
applications are virtualized and management of images is much easier (with
high cost of course :-) )


Best Regards,

Dimitris Beletsiotis




*From:* pve-user [mailto:pve-user-bounces at pve.proxmox.com] *On Behalf Of *Angel
Docampo
*Sent:* Monday, October 05, 2015 16:20
*To:* Hermann Himmelbauer <hermann at qwer.tk>; PVE User List <
pve-user at pve.proxmox.com>
*Subject:* Re: [PVE-User] VDI on Proxmox anyone?



Oh, I forgot to say we mainly use Linux as desktops, so no need to golden
image as linux is multi-user, so I need only to upgrade one VM. We have
some windows server with terminal services and with some windows-only
software on them, but as said, VDI infrastructure relys on linux desktops ;)

Anyway, you can have windows VM and access through a thinclient booting
x2go (or other lightweight linux distro bootable via PXE) and access your
windows VDI throught rdesktop instead of x2go client, I've just tried the
same youtube video both in windows and in linux and while in linux trought
x2go protocol the video seems smoother while not in full screen, seems that
rdesktop protocol in windows handles full screen videos a bit better...
anyway, in a enterprise environment, where watching videos is sporadical
and they can be seen perfectly in a windowed size, all virtual
environments, from KVM to commercial, offers a pretty but limited
performance.

As you can see, my approach is different from yours: instead to have one VM
for each users (even each VM is a linked clone from a template) I have one
VM for many users, one linux and one windows. In linux is free and in
windows I must use TS licenses (well, if you're legal, you should use them
also in windows clones).

The benefeits in having several users on the same VM is shared memory,
resources from the VM are shared amongst the users, but in echange having a
machine-user ratio of 1:1 you can isolate the processes, in both
approaches, you only must maintain only one VM.

On 05/10/15 14:02, Hermann Himmelbauer wrote:

Am 05.10.2015 um 09:44 schrieb Angel Docampo:

Hi there!



I have set up proxmox as VDI infrastructure for a while and it works

great. While the experience is quite good on enterprise environments, is

true that online videos are too expensive in network terms.



What I'm using to connect to the VDIs is x2go TCE

(http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/wiki:advanced:tce:install), is based on

nx and it's jpeg compression or whatever it uses reduces it's bandwidth

to a level you can connect even through a DSL connection from home.

Highly recommended to test it out. Online videos, far from perfect, are

pretty less laggy than on spice.



Very interesting, thanks! I'd like to know how you set up the VDI -

simply as a single-instance installation? Or do you have some kind of

setup with a cloned golden image or the like?



Btw.: Why not use the simple Remote Desktop, which is already integrated

in Windows? Is the latest RDP protocol not already highly optimized,

especially for video and the like?



Best Regards,

Hermann







-- 

*Angel Docampo*

*Datalab Tecnologia, s.a.*

Castillejos, 352 - 08025 Barcelona

Tel. 93 476 69 14 - Ext: 114
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