[PVE-User] Storage System/Server question
athompso at athompso.net
Mon May 4 23:26:07 CEST 2015
The argument could easily be made that hardware RAID is currently the
second-worst storage option for Proxmox VE. (The worst being a single,
The 3.3 installer now defaults to ZFS, I believe, clearly showing that
it's a first-class citizen.
You can run CEPH on a single-host cluster, although that would be
unusual unless you planned to expand later.
Fiber-channel is a viable choice, but if you're prepared to spend on
10GE, you'd be better served under PVE by buying another half-dozen or
so servers and running CEPH as a "converged" storage solution. Or even
iSCSI, based on cost/performance ratios.
Storage latency turns out to be the killer, so in enormous environments,
FC has an advantage. However, in enormous environments, you should just
run CEPH and stop paying obscene amounts of $$$ for FC. Plus, PVE
doesn't really scale to more than 16 servers, so we're not talking about
1000+ IOPS anyway.
If you run ZFS, do not run it on top of hardware RAID. ZFS is designed
specifically to run on bare drives without a RAID layer in between. ZFS
*replaces* the RAID layer, so it would be exactly like putting, say, 6
hard drives into a RAID6 array, exporting 6 equal-sized LUNs, and then
running software RAID6 across the 6 LUNs. Inefficient,
performance-killing, and makes diagnosis very difficult.
If you run CEPH or ZFS, you can also use SSDs as a caching layer in
front of spinning rust, effectively giving you a virtual hybrid disk -
all the storage of spinning rust, and almost all of the performance of
Perhaps the best way to look at it is: look at the explicitly-listed
storage options on the Storage tab of an existing PVE install. Pick one
of those, as they're all fully-supported. Anything else is a
On 05/04/2015 03:30 PM, Steffen Wagner wrote:
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> Hi guys!
> does someone have experience with storage systems in combination with
> Proxmox? Can someone explain if a hardware Raid is still the "only" and
> "best" way?
> Is ZFS over UFS or JBOD also a possible safe way to go?
> Currently I am running 4x240GB Intel Datacenter SSD's with an Adaptec
> Hardware Raid5... but I need more storage and want to buy a storage
> system with 10G Fiber / ...
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