[PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup feature withProxmox?

Gilberto Nunes gilberto.nunes32 at gmail.com
Wed Jan 21 10:48:44 CET 2015


Proxmox staff has yours very reason to do not include this and already
explaned...
So, do it for yourself... It's not complicate....

Cheers

2015-01-21 7:22 GMT-02:00 "[SOLTECSIS] Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó" <
carles at unlimitedmail.org>:

> Hi,
> It would be great if the developers of the Proxmox VE project coment
> here something about the possibility of include the Ayufan's patch in
> the official release.
>
> Is it possible?
>
> Best regards.
>
>
> El 20/01/15 a las 18:03, Gilberto Nunes escribió:
> > Hi all
> >
> > I just wanna share that I am using the patch from:
> >
> > http://ayufan.eu/projects/proxmox-ve-differential-backups/
> >
> > and want to say that works pretty well...
> >
> > Consider a try
> >
> > 2015-01-19 11:11 GMT-02:00 "[SOLTECSIS] Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó"
> > <carles at unlimitedmail.org <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org>>:
> >
> >     Yes, but it is possible to make a local incremental backup and then
> >     rsync it to the remote datacenter. It requires a lot of less
> bandwidth
> >     than if we have to transfer full backups every day to the remote data
> >     center.
> >
> >     I understand that Ayufan's patch is not the best option for
> incremental
> >     backups but I believe that, if there is no backup inconsistent data
> >     problem with it, is a good option until exists something better.
> >
> >     What do you thing about it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     El 19/01/15 a las 13:47, Alexandre DERUMIER escribió:
> >     >>> It is better to really read only the changed block since the last
> >     >>> backup, it will be possible when the qemu incremental backup is
> >     >>> commited, but in the meantime I believe that something like de
> >     Ayufan's
> >     >>> patch integrated in the Proxmox official release will be great.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> What do you thing about it?
> >     >
> >     > Another problem with  Ayufan's patch, is that to create the diff,
> >     you also need to read the full backup,
> >     > to do the diff.
> >     >
> >     > And with a remote storage,it can use a lot of bandwith
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > ----- Mail original -----
> >     > De: "SOLTECSIS" <carles at unlimitedmail.org
> >     <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org>>
> >     > À: "aderumier" <aderumier at odiso.com <mailto:aderumier at odiso.com>>
> >     > Cc: "proxmoxve" <pve-user at pve.proxmox.com
> >     <mailto:pve-user at pve.proxmox.com>>
> >     > Envoyé: Lundi 19 Janvier 2015 11:40:39
> >     > Objet: Re: [PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup
> >     feature withProxmox?
> >     >
> >     > Ok, I understand then that it is a problem of backup time (because
> it
> >     > reads all blocks), but the resulting incremental its ok, isn't it?
> >     >
> >     > It is better to really read only the changed block since the last
> >     > backup, it will be possible when the qemu incremental backup is
> >     > commited, but in the meantime I believe that something like de
> >     Ayufan's
> >     > patch integrated in the Proxmox official release will be great.
> >     >
> >     > What do you thing about it?
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     > El 19/01/15 a las 11:22, Alexandre DERUMIER escribió:
> >     >>>> Please, may you send the link to the thread in wich it is
> >     explained the
> >     >>>> reason for which the Ayufan's patch is not suitable?
> >     >>
> >     >> I think the main problem is that a full backup is done on qemu
> >     side (all block are reads),
> >     >> but it's piped to xdelta to generate the diff file.
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >> The coming qemu incremental backup allow to really read only the
> >     changed block since the last backup.
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >> ----- Mail original -----
> >     >> De: "SOLTECSIS" <carles at unlimitedmail.org
> >     <mailto:carles at unlimitedmail.org>>
> >     >> À: "proxmoxve" <pve-user at pve.proxmox.com
> >     <mailto:pve-user at pve.proxmox.com>>
> >     >> Envoyé: Lundi 19 Janvier 2015 11:13:07
> >     >> Objet: Re: [PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup
> >     feature withProxmox?
> >     >>
> >     >> Hi,
> >     >> Please, may you send the link to the thread in wich it is
> >     explained the
> >     >> reason for which the Ayufan's patch is not suitable?
> >     >>
> >     >> It seems that the Ayufan's patch integrates well in the Proxmox
> web
> >     >> interface and it allows management of differential backs from it.
> >     >>
> >     >> We need something like this because we have several customers with
> >     >> disaster recovery systems in remote data centers and copying full
> >     >> backups takes lot of bandwidth and time.
> >     >>
> >     >> Best regards.
> >     >>
> >     >>
> >     >> El 16/01/15 a las 15:55, Martin Maurer escribió:
> >     >>>> Steffen Wagner <mail at steffenwagner.com
> >     <mailto:mail at steffenwagner.com>> hat am 16. Januar 2015 um 14:56
> >     >>>> geschrieben:
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> I found something for differential backups.. maybe have a look
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> http://ayufan.eu/projects/proxmox-ve-differential-backups/
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>> Regards,
> >     >>>> Steffen
> >     >>>
> >     >>> This is not suitable, if you want to know why please read the
> >     archive of the
> >     >>> pve-devel mailing list.
> >     >>>
> >     >>> Martin
> >     >>>
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> >     >>
> >     >>
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> Departamento de I+D+I
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