[PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup featurewithProxmox?

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Hello all, 

I'm sorry for my english. (i'm french) 
I'm new in proxmox, i read that backup VMS don't work with proxmox ? 
Why ? 
Today, i use virtualbox, and backup is so difficult to do, so i want use proxmox. 

Thank you 



	

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De: "Steffen Wagner" <mail at steffenwagner.com> 
À: "[SOLTECSIS] Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó" <carles at unlimitedmail.org>, "Alexandre DERUMIER" <aderumier at odiso.com> 
Cc: "proxmoxve" <pve-user at pve.proxmox.com> 
Envoyé: Lundi 19 Janvier 2015 12:06:29 
Objet: Re: [PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup featurewithProxmox? 

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From: "[SOLTECSIS] Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó" 
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 11:40 AM 
To: Alexandre DERUMIER 
Cc: proxmoxve 
Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup 
featurewithProxmox? 

Ok, I understand then that it is a problem of backup time (because it 
reads all blocks), but the resulting incremental its ok, isn't it? 

It is better to really read only the changed block since the last 
backup, it will be possible when the qemu incremental backup is 
commited, but in the meantime I believe that something like de Ayufan's 
patch integrated in the Proxmox official release will be great. 

What do you thing about it? 



El 19/01/15 a las 11:22, Alexandre DERUMIER escribió: 
>>> Please, may you send the link to the thread in wich it is explained the 
>>> reason for which the Ayufan's patch is not suitable? 
> 
> I think the main problem is that a full backup is done on qemu side (all 
> block are reads), 
> but it's piped to xdelta to generate the diff file. 
> 
> 
> The coming qemu incremental backup allow to really read only the changed 
> block since the last backup. 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Mail original ----- 
> De: "SOLTECSIS" <carles at unlimitedmail.org> 
> À: "proxmoxve" <pve-user at pve.proxmox.com> 
> Envoyé: Lundi 19 Janvier 2015 11:13:07 
> Objet: Re: [PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup feature 
> withProxmox? 
> 
> Hi, 
> Please, may you send the link to the thread in wich it is explained the 
> reason for which the Ayufan's patch is not suitable? 
> 
> It seems that the Ayufan's patch integrates well in the Proxmox web 
> interface and it allows management of differential backs from it. 
> 
> We need something like this because we have several customers with 
> disaster recovery systems in remote data centers and copying full 
> backups takes lot of bandwidth and time. 
> 
> Best regards. 
> 
> 
> El 16/01/15 a las 15:55, Martin Maurer escribió: 
>>> Steffen Wagner <mail at steffenwagner.com> hat am 16. Januar 2015 um 14:56 
>>> geschrieben: 
>>> 
>>> I found something for differential backups.. maybe have a look 
>>> 
>>> http://ayufan.eu/projects/proxmox-ve-differential-backups/ 
>>> 
>>> Regards, 
>>> Steffen 
>> 
>> This is not suitable, if you want to know why please read the archive of 
>> the 
>> pve-devel mailing list. 
>> 
>> Martin 
>> 
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