[PVE-User] pve-user Digest, Vol 59, Issue 22

Ola Karlsson olka at bagheera.se
Wed Feb 27 13:16:43 CET 2013 

Hello,

 

The problem with iSCSI on FreeNAS and FreeBSD is that they use the software ISTGT.

It’s not the fastest and some important features are still missing.

However, I think the FreeNAS team has made some additional progress on ISTGT but I’m not sure.

 

I believe both Openindiana and Solaris use COMSTAR which is supposed to be a very fast and stable iSCSI framework.

 

From what I’ve read there is little difference with NFS and iSCSI regarding speed. 

The main benefit with NFS is that is much more easy to work with and more difficult to screw up.

                             

 

BR

Ola

				

 

 

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Ämne: Re: [PVE-User] pve-user Digest, Vol 59, Issue 22

 

Hello Fabio 

 

thank you for your will to compare open-source NAS sw 

I will defintely read (and learn from) your results.

But I'm just wondering why is FreeNAs ISCSI so bad ?

form my expirience  iscsi was little faster than nfs ...

 

What kind of tests showed that NFS a way better than iscsi ?

 

thank you very much in advance and

 

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  1. Re: Proxmox and NAS4Free (Michael Rasmussen)
  2. Re: Proxmox and NAS4Free (Paul Gapes)
  3. Re: Proxmox and NAS4Free (Michael Rasmussen)
  4. Re: Proxmox and NAS4Free (Diego Barrera)
  5. Re: Proxmox and NAS4Free (Diego Barrera)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:38:40 +0100
From: Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org>
To: pve-user at pve.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox and NAS4Free
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:06:55 -0300
F?bio Rabelo <fabio at fabiorabelo.wiki.br> wrote:





Someone uses NAS4Free as storage for Proxmox ?!?

I have tried most of the NAS solutions out there, and then some more:-)

NAS4Free: Stable but the GUI is not so polished. NFS is fine but ISCSI
sucks. Based on FreeBSD 9.1. Developed by an OSS community.
FreeNAS: Stable and a nice GUI. NFS is fine but ISCSI sucks. Based on
FreeBSD 8.3. Backed by a company so payed support is available.
Openfiler: Project is abandoned.
Openmediavault: Very young and more or less a one mand project. Quit
stable but not a race horse. Based on Debian Stable.
FreeBSD: Same problem, and who wonders, as with FreeNAS and NAS4Free.
Developed by an OSS community.
OpenIndiana with napp-it: Same as with all the FreeBSD based systems,
horrible ISCSI performance on-top of ZFS.

But we seems to have a winner:
Ominios with napp-it: Blazingly fast ZFS and rock stable ISCSI as well.
I am in the middle of conducting a serious performance test which I
gladly will publish on this list/forum if somebody wants to read it?


-- 
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 21:46:47 +0000
From: Paul Gapes <Paul.Gapes at wfa.org.nz>
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Most definitely of interest thanks Michael.

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Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox and NAS4Free

On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:06:55 -0300
F?bio Rabelo <fabio at fabiorabelo.wiki.br> wrote:





Someone uses NAS4Free as storage for Proxmox ?!?

I have tried most of the NAS solutions out there, and then some more:-)

NAS4Free: Stable but the GUI is not so polished. NFS is fine but ISCSI sucks. Based on FreeBSD 9.1. Developed by an OSS community.
FreeNAS: Stable and a nice GUI. NFS is fine but ISCSI sucks. Based on FreeBSD 8.3. Backed by a company so payed support is available.
Openfiler: Project is abandoned.
Openmediavault: Very young and more or less a one mand project. Quit stable but not a race horse. Based on Debian Stable.
FreeBSD: Same problem, and who wonders, as with FreeNAS and NAS4Free.
Developed by an OSS community.
OpenIndiana with napp-it: Same as with all the FreeBSD based systems, horrible ISCSI performance on-top of ZFS.

But we seems to have a winner:
Ominios with napp-it: Blazingly fast ZFS and rock stable ISCSI as well.
I am in the middle of conducting a serious performance test which I gladly will publish on this list/forum if somebody wants to read it?


--
Hilsen/Regards
Michael Rasmussen

Get my public GnuPG keys:
michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xD3C9A00E
mir <at> datanom <dot> net
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xE501F51C
mir <at> miras <dot> org
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:31:12 +0100
From: Michael Rasmussen <mir at miras.org>
To: "Matthew W. Ross" <mross at ephrataschools.org>,
                      "pve-user at pve.proxmox.com"                <pve-user at pve.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox and NAS4Free
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On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:48:33 -0800
"Matthew W. Ross" <mross at ephrataschools.org> wrote:




Nice list.

I googled Omnios... no results. Is there a homepage for the project?

Certainly: http://omnios.omniti.com/

An also for those interested omnios is also backed by a commercial
entity for which payed support is available:
http://omniti.com/does/omnios

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:12:12 +0100
From: Diego Barrera <diegonebarrera at yahoo.it>
To: pve-user at pve.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox and NAS4Free
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Il 25/02/2013 22:38, Michael Rasmussen ha scritto:



On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 17:06:55 -0300
F?bio Rabelo <fabio at fabiorabelo.wiki.br> wrote:




Someone uses NAS4Free as storage for Proxmox ?!?

I have tried most of the NAS solutions out there, and then some more:-)

NAS4Free: Stable but the GUI is not so polished. NFS is fine but ISCSI
sucks. Based on FreeBSD 9.1. Developed by an OSS community.
FreeNAS: Stable and a nice GUI. NFS is fine but ISCSI sucks. Based on
FreeBSD 8.3. Backed by a company so payed support is available.
Openfiler: Project is abandoned.
Openmediavault: Very young and more or less a one mand project. Quit
stable but not a race horse. Based on Debian Stable.
FreeBSD: Same problem, and who wonders, as with FreeNAS and NAS4Free.
Developed by an OSS community.
OpenIndiana with napp-it: Same as with all the FreeBSD based systems,
horrible ISCSI performance on-top of ZFS.

But we seems to have a winner:
Ominios with napp-it: Blazingly fast ZFS and rock stable ISCSI as well.
I am in the middle of conducting a serious performance test which I
gladly will publish on this list/forum if somebody wants to read it?




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Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:13:47 +0100
From: Diego Barrera <diegonebarrera at yahoo.it>
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Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox and NAS4Free
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Il 25/02/2013 22:38, Michael Rasmussen ha scritto:



I am in the middle of conducting a serious performance test which I 
gladly will publish on this list/forum if somebody wants to read it?

I am very interested!
Please also shows the details of virtualization solutions on which you 
performed the test.
diego

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