[PVE-User] Doing without the Java console

[Jeremy Davis]

Similar request - different reason.
Further to Flavio's request, it'd be nice if there was an easy OOTB
way to access servers from Android devices.

It'd be really cool if I could fully admin servers from my Android
tablet. Currently that requires a direct connection to the VM
(SSH/VNC/RDP) as Java isn't fully implemented in Android. That's fine
for most things, but it needs to be configured in the guest prior. And
it also means that installing and configuring a new VM from scratch is
not possible (unless I've missed something).

It'd be awesome if I could do everything I can do from a PC, from my
tablet!

Regards,
Jeremy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Flavio Stanchina" 
To:
Cc:
Sent:Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:33:10 +0100
Subject:[PVE-User] Doing without the Java console

 I'd like to know how the Proxmox VE developers feel about making it
 possible to work with PVE without the Java VNC console. I'll spare
you all
 the technical and ethical reasons why I would prefer to get rid of
Java on
 my machines, but there are three that I just can't bear:
 1) Java is not Free Software, no matter what they say, so it's the
only
 non-free component in an otherwise fully free infrastructure (and
please
 don't mention OpenJDK and IcedTea, it just doesn't work well enough
to
 replace the Sun^WOracle JRE).
 2) the Java plugin has a history of being unsafe, so I'd rather just
get
 rid of it.
 3) the Oracle lawsuit against Google.

 Moreover, the PVE console eats some keys on PVE 2.0, for example the
TAB
 key. I hope this can be fixed, but if it can't it's one more reason
to have
 another option.

 I see a few alternatives which would be relatively easy to do, listed
in
 order of preference:
 * add an option to open the VNC console of a VM (with proper
authorization
 of course) on a specified port; I've done this with a few entries in
 /etc/inetd.conf on PVE 1.x, as suggested in a forum post, but IIRC it
 doesn't work with PVE 2.0 (I think I tried to debug why but didn't
get to
 the bottom of it).
 * enable Spice; I tried building a qemu-kvm package with Spice
enabled,
 then added the proper options to the VM config and it works, but in a
 production environment I'd want support out of the box.
 * use the gtk-vnc plugin where available; not mature, not available
 everywhere, but it works and making it better is not a hard problem.

 Of course I want ALL OF THEM! :)

 -- 
 Flavio Stanchina
 Informatica e Servizi
 Trento - Italy

 Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it,
poorly.
 -- Henry Spencer
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