[pve-devel] Error in PVE with win2008r2 and 256GB RAM
Cesar Peschiera
brain at click.com.py
Mon Dec 1 10:47:15 CET 2014
I was performing your suggestions, but i get these error messages:
shell# /etc/init.d/pvedaemon restart
Restarting PVE Daemon: pvedaemonBareword found where operator expected at
/usr/share/perl5/PVE/QemuServer.pm line 2639, near "#push @$cpuFlags ,
'hv_spinlocks"
(Might be a runaway multi-line '' string starting on line 2638)
(Missing operator before hv_spinlocks?)
String found where operator expected at /usr/share/perl5/PVE/QemuServer.pm
line 2642, near "if ($ost eq '"
(Might be a runaway multi-line '' string starting on line 2639)
(Missing semicolon on previous line?)
Bad name after win7' at /usr/share/perl5/PVE/QemuServer.pm line 2642.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/PVE/VZDump/QemuServer.pm
line 14.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at
/usr/share/perl5/PVE/VZDump/QemuServer.pm line 14.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/PVE/VZDump.pm line 32.
Attempt to reload PVE/QemuServer.pm aborted.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/PVE/API2/Nodes.pm line 25.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/PVE/API2/Nodes.pm line
25.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/PVE/API2.pm line 14.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/PVE/API2.pm line 14.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/bin/pvedaemon line 14.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/bin/pvedaemon line 14.
(warning).
So finally I revert the changes.
Notes:
A) On PVE, I can to install the latest kernel version if will be better
B) The final target is use the RAM of this manner (The 256GB RAM of Server):
For PVE:
- Use the OS (PVE) with 8 GB. RAM.
For the VM:
- 8 or 16 GB. RAM for the OS (the VM share some necessary files)
- 248 or 240 GB. RAM for the MS-SQL Server
( I want to use lots of RAM for MS-SQL Server... it will have more reading
cache enabled )
Some other suggestions?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexandre DERUMIER" <aderumier at odiso.com>
To: "Cesar Peschiera" <brain at click.com.py>
Cc: <pve-devel at pve.proxmox.com>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 3:55 AM
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] Error in PVE with win2008r2 and 256GB RAM
also, can you post your vm config file ?
Proxmox use some hyper-v features to help for some case, including high
memory.
But currently, 2 features are missing.
in /usr/share/perl5/PVE/QemuServer
if ($ost eq 'win7' || $ost eq 'win8' || $ost eq 'w2k8' ||
$ost eq 'wvista') {
push @$globalFlags, 'kvm-pit.lost_tick_policy=discard';
push @$cmd, '-no-hpet';
#push @$cpuFlags , 'hv_vapic" if !$nokvm; #fixme, my win2008R2
hang at boot with this
push @$cpuFlags , 'hv_spinlocks=0xffff' if !$nokvm;
}
if ($ost eq 'win7' || $ost eq 'win8') {
push @$cpuFlags , 'hv_relaxed' if !$nokvm;
}
maybe can your try to uncomment
#push @$cpuFlags , 'hv_vapic" if !$nokvm; #fixme, my win2008R2 hang at
boot with this
and restart
/etc/init.d/pvedaemon restart
and start your vm again.
(I think they was a bug in previous kernel, but maybe it's fixed now).
Another missing feature is hv_time, paravirtualized clock, but AFAIK it's
only work with 3.10 kernel.
so, you can try
if ($ost eq 'win7' || $ost eq 'win8') {
push @$cpuFlags , 'hv_relaxed' if !$nokvm;
push @$cpuFlags , 'hv_time' if !$nokvm;
}
----- Mail original -----
De: "Alexandre DERUMIER" <aderumier at odiso.com>
À: "Cesar Peschiera" <brain at click.com.py>
Cc: pve-devel at pve.proxmox.com
Envoyé: Lundi 1 Décembre 2014 06:47:35
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] Error in PVE with win2008r2 and 256GB RAM
>>3) In parallel to this strange behavior, htop on PVE is showing that the
>>process that consume a lot of processor is: "/usr/bin/kvm", this behavior
>>is
>>repetitive in all threads of processor that the VM has access.
The kvm process is your vm ;) (each guestvm is a kvm process)
>>4) In parallel to this strange behavior, while that the VM is configured
>>with 62GB RAM, htop on PVE is showing that the use of the memory is
>>growing
>>in each second that elapses, and when his memory bar say that have used
>>"63964/257912MB", the consumption of threads of processors of this VM
>>returns to normal state. While that the VM has more RAM, the behavior is
>>the
>>same, but the VM takes longer time to reach to a normal state.
At boot, windows fill the memory with zero. and that's use cpu
BTW, do you use balloning/dynamic memory feature of proxmox ?
can you try to add balloon:0 in your config. (to disable the balloon device)
>>5) As a second test, after of see all these behaviours, I log to Windows
>>Server, and htop show me a high consumption of many threads of processors
>>(+/- 50%), but after that the session was initiated, the consumption of
>>processors returns to normal state.
>>6) In htop, i see the same behaviour of consumption of processor while
>>that
>>a session of windows is closing, i guess that any thing that i do in this
>>VM
>>will consume processor resources extra needlessly.
really don't known, this should require some cpu profiling inside windows.
----- Mail original -----
De: "Cesar Peschiera" <brain at click.com.py>
À: pve-devel at pve.proxmox.com
Envoyé: Lundi 1 Décembre 2014 06:35:14
Objet: Re: [pve-devel] Error in PVE with win2008r2 and 256GB RAM
Hi to PVE team developers
This is a new summary of a major problem between PVE, KVM and Win2008R2 SP1
VM.
Maybe i am doing something wrong, or maybe PVE or KVM need some corrections,
but i have done many test for get that the Win2008R2 SP1 works correctly
without successful, so that i would like consult about this to the PVE
developers
Summary of the problem:
-------------------------
When i turn on the Win2008R2 VM, the cpu go to the 100% in use for each
thread enabled in the VM, and when the VM is configured for example with 4GB
RAM, this VM works perfectly.
This is my Hardware setup:
---------------------------
- DELL poweredge R720 Server,
- Two processors Intel Xeon CPU E5-2690 v2 @ 3.00GHz., each processor has
10 cores and 20 threads (Hyperthreading),
- 256GB RAM. in performace mode
This is my Software setup:
--------------------------
- The Software is recently installed:
- PVE 3.3-5 (from his ISO and upgraded),
- Kernel: pve-kernel-2.6.32-34-pve,
- As VM: Win2008R2 SP1 using the 2 Intel processors and 248 GB RAM,
- VM without the use of tablet for pointer enabled in PVE (i use vmmouse of
VMware).
Here the symptoms and my actions performed:
-----------------------------------------------
1) Doing some tests, i have changed manually the size the page file of
Windows Server to 10 GB, and configured the VM with 62 GB. RAM (63488 MB.
RAM), now i can see that the Windows Server start with 100% of CPU, and
after of two minutes more or less, the processor returns to a normal state.
2) Seeing the task manager of Win2008R2 VM (while all cores and threads are
at 100%), i get this:
Image Name: System
User Name: System
CPU: 99%
memory (Private workspace): 52 KB
Description: NT Kernel & System
All other processes are consuming 0% of CPU
Here comes the more important information of side of PVE,
and other actions performed:
------------------------------------------------------------
3) In parallel to this strange behavior, htop on PVE is showing that the
process that consume a lot of processor is: "/usr/bin/kvm", this behavior is
repetitive in all threads of processor that the VM has access.
4) In parallel to this strange behavior, while that the VM is configured
with 62GB RAM, htop on PVE is showing that the use of the memory is growing
in each second that elapses, and when his memory bar say that have used
"63964/257912MB", the consumption of threads of processors of this VM
returns to normal state. While that the VM has more RAM, the behavior is the
same, but the VM takes longer time to reach to a normal state.
5) As a second test, after of see all these behaviours, I log to Windows
Server, and htop show me a high consumption of many threads of processors
(+/- 50%), but after that the session was initiated, the consumption of
processors returns to normal state.
6) In htop, i see the same behaviour of consumption of processor while that
a session of windows is closing, i guess that any thing that i do in this VM
will consume processor resources extra needlessly.
7) Moreover, while that the task manager of Win2008R2 VM says that have +/-
60GB free, PVE in his tag "Summary" says exactly the conversely.
8) Trying to solve the problem, i did the suggestions without successful of
Mr. Spirit, according to this link:
http://forum.proxmox.com/threads/19309-Windows-KVM-frequent-restarts?p=99436#post99436
Maybe KVM or PVE have problems for manage lots RAM memory with numa enabled
in the bios of the Server, but in am not sure.
Only as a reference, i show this link:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872524
I will be very grateful I will be very grateful to anyone that may help me.
Best regards
Cesar
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