[pbs-devel] Authentication performance

Mark Schouten mark at tuxis.nl
Mon Dec 16 12:23:06 CET 2024


Hi,

>
>would you mind sharing either `authkey.pub` or the output of the
>following commands:
>
>head --lines=1 /etc/proxmox-backup/authkey.key
>cat /etc/proxmox-backup/authkey.key | wc -l

-----BEGIN RSA PRIVATE KEY-----
51

So that is indeed the legacy method. We are going to upgrade our PBS’es 
on wednesday.

>
>The first should give the PEM header of the authkey whereas the second
>provides the amount of lines that the key takes up in the file. Both
>give an indication whether you are using the legacy RSA keys or newer
>Ed25519 keys. The later should provide more performance, security should
>not be affected much by this change. If the output of the commands look
>like this:
>
>-----BEGIN PRIVATE KEY-----
>3
>
>Then you are using the newer keys. There currently isn't a recommended
>way to upgrade the keys. However, in theory you should be able to remove
>the old keys, re-start PBS and it should just generate keys in the new
>format. Note that this will logout anyone that is currently
>authenticated and they'll have to re-authenticate.

  Seems like a good moment to update those keys as well.

>In general, tokens should still be fater to authenticate so we'd
>recommend that you try to get your users to switch to token-based
>authentication where possible. Improving performance there is a bit
>trickier though, as it often comes with a security trade-off (in the
>background we use yescrypt fo the authentication there, that
>delibaretely adds a work factor). However, we may be able to improve
>performance a bit via caching methods or similar.

Yes, that might help. I’m also not sure if it actually is 
authentication, or if it is the datastore-call that the PVE-environments 
call. As you can see in your support issue 3153557, it looks like some 
requests loop through all datastores, before responding with a limited 
set of datastores.

For instance (and I’m a complete noob wrt Rust) but if I understand 
https://git.proxmox.com/?p=proxmox-backup.git;a=blob;f=src/api2/admin/datastore.rs;h=11d2641b9ca2d2c92da1a85e4cb16d780368abd3;hb=HEAD#l1315 
correcly, PBS loops through all the datastores, checks mount-status and 
config, and only starts filtering at line 1347. If I understand that 
correctly, in our case with over 1100 datastores, that might cause quite 
some load?


Thanks,

—
  Mark Schouten
CTO, Tuxis B.V.
+31 318 200208 / mark at tuxis.nl




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