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    Hi there!<br>
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    I have set up proxmox as VDI infrastructure for a while and it works
    great. While the experience is quite good on enterprise
    environments, is true that online videos are too expensive in
    network terms.<br>
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    What I'm using to connect to the VDIs is x2go TCE
    (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/wiki:advanced:tce:install">http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/wiki:advanced:tce:install</a>), is based
    on nx and it's jpeg compression or whatever it uses reduces it's
    bandwidth to a level you can connect even through a DSL connection
    from home. Highly recommended to test it out. Online videos, far
    from perfect, are pretty less laggy than on spice.<br>
    <br>
    Regards, <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/09/15 15:59, Dimitris Beletsiotis
      wrote:<br>
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                              <div>Hello,<br>
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                              >>Is youtube not working due to the
                              network speed, or are there generally<br>
                              >>problems with video
                              compression/transfer via SPICE?<br>
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                            Youtube is working but not like the native
                            experience (there are some glitches in audio
                            and video).<br>
                            I see 50-70 Mbps net traffic between the
                            spice-server (proxmox) and the spice-client
                            when youtube video is running, I consider
                            this too high.<br>
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                          Normal traffic is around 1-2 Mbps and some
                          times is reaching 10 Mbps.<br>
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                          >>What I moreover would like to know is
                          how you do updates on the Win7<br>
                          >>desktops - do you do this on each
                          single machine or do you somehow do<br>
                          >>these updates on a "golden image" from
                          where you clone your current<br>
                          >>working image?<br>
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                        To accomplish above with proxmox I believe that
                        you need to use the linked clones feature (I
                        have not tested in production), see:<br>
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href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/news/press-releases/proxmox-ve-3-0-released">https://www.proxmox.com/en/news/press-releases/proxmox-ve-3-0-released</a><br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/VM_Templates_and_Clones">https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/VM_Templates_and_Clones</a><br>
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                      Just tried a simple test:<br>
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                    -Create a template from an existing win7 image to
                    use as the base image, vmid 301<br>
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                  -Create a linked clone from the above for a user, vmid
                  302<br>
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                -Create a full clone from vmid 301 to update the base
                image (e.g. perform software updates), vmid 303<br>
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              -Create a linked clone from the above to update the image
              to the user, vmid 303<br>
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            As you can see below sizes of linked clones are very low (it
            always depends to the size of changes applied) compared to
            the base image of 100G.<br>
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          The time required to create the linked clones from the
          template is few secs.<br>
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                ./301:<br>
                total 82G<br>
                -r--r--r-- 1 root root 101G Sep 30 13:02
                base-301-disk-1.qcow2<br>
                ./302:<br>
                total 210M<br>
                -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 210M Sep 30 13:47
                vm-302-disk-1.qcow2<br>
                ./303:<br>
                total 81G<br>
                -r--r--r-- 1 root root 100G Sep 30 13:36
                base-303-disk-1.raw<br>
                ./304:<br>
                total 307M<br>
                -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 307M Sep 30 13:47
                vm-304-disk-1.qcow2<br>
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              <div>Best Regards,<br>
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              <div>Dimitris<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:18 PM,
          Hermann Himmelbauer <span dir="ltr"><<a
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              target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:hermann@qwer.tk">hermann@qwer.tk</a></a>></span> wrote:<br>
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              class="">Am 29.09.2015 um 15:39 schrieb Dimitris
              Beletsiotis:<br>
              > Hello,<br>
              ><br>
              > For VDI on proxmox you can use Spice
              protocol/console, for more info<br>
              > see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/SPICE"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/SPICE</a><br>
              > Win7 desktop is working perfectly stable and is fine
              for basic office usage.<br>
              > Audio works fine, youtube streaming is problematic
              for me.<br>
              ><br>
              > If you have many workstations you can use ZFS storage
              with deduplication<br>
              > enabled to save big on storage needs.<br>
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            </span>Thanks for info, very interesting!<br>
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            Is youtube not working due to the network speed, or are
            there generally<br>
            problems with video compression/transfer via SPICE?<br>
            <br>
            What I moreover would like to know is how you do updates on
            the Win7<br>
            desktops - do you do this on each single machine or do you
            somehow do<br>
            these updates on a "golden image" from where you clone your
            current<br>
            working image?<br>
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                Best Regards,<br>
                Hermann<br>
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