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Hi there!<br>
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I have set up proxmox as VDI infrastructure for a while and it works
great. While the experience is quite good on enterprise
environments, is true that online videos are too expensive in
network terms.<br>
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What I'm using to connect to the VDIs is x2go TCE
(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/wiki:advanced:tce:install">http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php/wiki:advanced:tce:install</a>), is based
on nx and it's jpeg compression or whatever it uses reduces it's
bandwidth to a level you can connect even through a DSL connection
from home. Highly recommended to test it out. Online videos, far
from perfect, are pretty less laggy than on spice.<br>
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Regards, <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/09/15 15:59, Dimitris Beletsiotis
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<div>Hello,<br>
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>>Is youtube not working due to the
network speed, or are there generally<br>
>>problems with video
compression/transfer via SPICE?<br>
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Youtube is working but not like the native
experience (there are some glitches in audio
and video).<br>
I see 50-70 Mbps net traffic between the
spice-server (proxmox) and the spice-client
when youtube video is running, I consider
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Normal traffic is around 1-2 Mbps and some
times is reaching 10 Mbps.<br>
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>>What I moreover would like to know is
how you do updates on the Win7<br>
>>desktops - do you do this on each
single machine or do you somehow do<br>
>>these updates on a "golden image" from
where you clone your current<br>
>>working image?<br>
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To accomplish above with proxmox I believe that
you need to use the linked clones feature (I
have not tested in production), see:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/news/press-releases/proxmox-ve-3-0-released">https://www.proxmox.com/en/news/press-releases/proxmox-ve-3-0-released</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/VM_Templates_and_Clones">https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/VM_Templates_and_Clones</a><br>
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Just tried a simple test:<br>
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<img src="cid:part3.00030606.01080301@dltec.net"
height="77" width="191"><br>
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-Create a template from an existing win7 image to
use as the base image, vmid 301<br>
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-Create a linked clone from the above for a user, vmid
302<br>
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-Create a full clone from vmid 301 to update the base
image (e.g. perform software updates), vmid 303<br>
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-Create a linked clone from the above to update the image
to the user, vmid 303<br>
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As you can see below sizes of linked clones are very low (it
always depends to the size of changes applied) compared to
the base image of 100G.<br>
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The time required to create the linked clones from the
template is few secs.<br>
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./301:<br>
total 82G<br>
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 101G Sep 30 13:02
base-301-disk-1.qcow2<br>
./302:<br>
total 210M<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 210M Sep 30 13:47
vm-302-disk-1.qcow2<br>
./303:<br>
total 81G<br>
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 100G Sep 30 13:36
base-303-disk-1.raw<br>
./304:<br>
total 307M<br>
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 307M Sep 30 13:47
vm-304-disk-1.qcow2<br>
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<div>Best Regards,<br>
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<div>Dimitris<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:18 PM,
Hermann Himmelbauer <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hermann@qwer.tk"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:hermann@qwer.tk">hermann@qwer.tk</a></a>></span> wrote:<br>
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class="">Am 29.09.2015 um 15:39 schrieb Dimitris
Beletsiotis:<br>
> Hello,<br>
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> For VDI on proxmox you can use Spice
protocol/console, for more info<br>
> see <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/SPICE"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/SPICE</a><br>
> Win7 desktop is working perfectly stable and is fine
for basic office usage.<br>
> Audio works fine, youtube streaming is problematic
for me.<br>
><br>
> If you have many workstations you can use ZFS storage
with deduplication<br>
> enabled to save big on storage needs.<br>
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</span>Thanks for info, very interesting!<br>
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Is youtube not working due to the network speed, or are
there generally<br>
problems with video compression/transfer via SPICE?<br>
<br>
What I moreover would like to know is how you do updates on
the Win7<br>
desktops - do you do this on each single machine or do you
somehow do<br>
these updates on a "golden image" from where you clone your
current<br>
working image?<br>
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Best Regards,<br>
Hermann<br>
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