<div dir="ltr"><div>Proxmox staff has yours very reason to do not include this and already explaned...<br>So, do it for yourself... It's not complicate....<br><br></div>Cheers<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-01-21 7:22 GMT-02:00 "[SOLTECSIS] Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó" <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carles@unlimitedmail.org" target="_blank">carles@unlimitedmail.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
It would be great if the developers of the Proxmox VE project coment<br>
here something about the possibility of include the Ayufan's patch in<br>
the official release.<br>
<br>
Is it possible?<br>
<br>
Best regards.<br>
<br>
<br>
El 20/01/15 a las 18:03, Gilberto Nunes escribió:<br>
<span class="">> Hi all<br>
><br>
> I just wanna share that I am using the patch from:<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://ayufan.eu/projects/proxmox-ve-differential-backups/" target="_blank">http://ayufan.eu/projects/proxmox-ve-differential-backups/</a><br>
><br>
> and want to say that works pretty well...<br>
><br>
> Consider a try<br>
><br>
> 2015-01-19 11:11 GMT-02:00 "[SOLTECSIS] Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó"<br>
</span>> <<a href="mailto:carles@unlimitedmail.org">carles@unlimitedmail.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:carles@unlimitedmail.org">carles@unlimitedmail.org</a>>>:<br>
<span class="">><br>
> Yes, but it is possible to make a local incremental backup and then<br>
> rsync it to the remote datacenter. It requires a lot of less bandwidth<br>
> than if we have to transfer full backups every day to the remote data<br>
> center.<br>
><br>
> I understand that Ayufan's patch is not the best option for incremental<br>
> backups but I believe that, if there is no backup inconsistent data<br>
> problem with it, is a good option until exists something better.<br>
><br>
> What do you thing about it?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> El 19/01/15 a las 13:47, Alexandre DERUMIER escribió:<br>
> >>> It is better to really read only the changed block since the last<br>
> >>> backup, it will be possible when the qemu incremental backup is<br>
> >>> commited, but in the meantime I believe that something like de<br>
> Ayufan's<br>
> >>> patch integrated in the Proxmox official release will be great.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> What do you thing about it?<br>
> ><br>
> > Another problem with Ayufan's patch, is that to create the diff,<br>
> you also need to read the full backup,<br>
> > to do the diff.<br>
> ><br>
> > And with a remote storage,it can use a lot of bandwith<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ----- Mail original -----<br>
> > De: "SOLTECSIS" <<a href="mailto:carles@unlimitedmail.org">carles@unlimitedmail.org</a><br>
</span>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:carles@unlimitedmail.org">carles@unlimitedmail.org</a>>><br>
> > À: "aderumier" <<a href="mailto:aderumier@odiso.com">aderumier@odiso.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:aderumier@odiso.com">aderumier@odiso.com</a>>><br>
> > Cc: "proxmoxve" <<a href="mailto:pve-user@pve.proxmox.com">pve-user@pve.proxmox.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pve-user@pve.proxmox.com">pve-user@pve.proxmox.com</a>>><br>
<span class="">> > Envoyé: Lundi 19 Janvier 2015 11:40:39<br>
> > Objet: Re: [PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup<br>
> feature withProxmox?<br>
> ><br>
> > Ok, I understand then that it is a problem of backup time (because it<br>
> > reads all blocks), but the resulting incremental its ok, isn't it?<br>
> ><br>
> > It is better to really read only the changed block since the last<br>
> > backup, it will be possible when the qemu incremental backup is<br>
> > commited, but in the meantime I believe that something like de<br>
> Ayufan's<br>
> > patch integrated in the Proxmox official release will be great.<br>
> ><br>
> > What do you thing about it?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > El 19/01/15 a las 11:22, Alexandre DERUMIER escribió:<br>
> >>>> Please, may you send the link to the thread in wich it is<br>
> explained the<br>
> >>>> reason for which the Ayufan's patch is not suitable?<br>
> >><br>
> >> I think the main problem is that a full backup is done on qemu<br>
> side (all block are reads),<br>
> >> but it's piped to xdelta to generate the diff file.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> The coming qemu incremental backup allow to really read only the<br>
> changed block since the last backup.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> ----- Mail original -----<br>
> >> De: "SOLTECSIS" <<a href="mailto:carles@unlimitedmail.org">carles@unlimitedmail.org</a><br>
</span>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:carles@unlimitedmail.org">carles@unlimitedmail.org</a>>><br>
> >> À: "proxmoxve" <<a href="mailto:pve-user@pve.proxmox.com">pve-user@pve.proxmox.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pve-user@pve.proxmox.com">pve-user@pve.proxmox.com</a>>><br>
<span class="">> >> Envoyé: Lundi 19 Janvier 2015 11:13:07<br>
> >> Objet: Re: [PVE-User] Is it possible to use qemu Livebackup<br>
> feature withProxmox?<br>
> >><br>
> >> Hi,<br>
> >> Please, may you send the link to the thread in wich it is<br>
> explained the<br>
> >> reason for which the Ayufan's patch is not suitable?<br>
> >><br>
> >> It seems that the Ayufan's patch integrates well in the Proxmox web<br>
> >> interface and it allows management of differential backs from it.<br>
> >><br>
> >> We need something like this because we have several customers with<br>
> >> disaster recovery systems in remote data centers and copying full<br>
> >> backups takes lot of bandwidth and time.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Best regards.<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >> El 16/01/15 a las 15:55, Martin Maurer escribió:<br>
> >>>> Steffen Wagner <<a href="mailto:mail@steffenwagner.com">mail@steffenwagner.com</a><br>
</span>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mail@steffenwagner.com">mail@steffenwagner.com</a>>> hat am 16. Januar 2015 um 14:56<br>
<span class="">> >>>> geschrieben:<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> I found something for differential backups.. maybe have a look<br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> <a href="http://ayufan.eu/projects/proxmox-ve-differential-backups/" target="_blank">http://ayufan.eu/projects/proxmox-ve-differential-backups/</a><br>
> >>>><br>
> >>>> Regards,<br>
> >>>> Steffen<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> This is not suitable, if you want to know why please read the<br>
> archive of the<br>
> >>> pve-devel mailing list.<br>
> >>><br>
> >>> Martin<br>
> >>><br>
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