<div dir="ltr">From the beggin, that's very clear to me... I know the difference between LVM Snapshots an Live Snapshots...<div>Perhaps I do not mention it on my first mail... </div><div>My doubt is if I deploy my software storage under Ubuntu or Debian or even in CentOS, whatever SO, if I get the same behavior like real storage...</div>
<div><br></div><div>But I see that is not the case....</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-07-10 14:37 GMT-03:00 Joel S. | VOZELIA <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joel@vozelia.com" target="_blank">joel@vozelia.com</a>></span>:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">From <a href="https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Live_Snapshots#Requirements" target="_blank">https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Live_Snapshots#Requirements</a>:<br>
<br>
"""<br>
Requirements<br>
<br>
In order to use Proxmox VE live snapshots all your virtual machine disk images must be stored as qcow2 image or be in a storage that supports live snapshots and is managed by Proxmox (like Ceph’s RADOS Block Device (RBD)). Future version will support also Sheepdog or Nexenta.<br>
<br>
Difference between LVM snapshots and Live snapshots<br>
<br>
LVM snapshots are used for doing backups. Live snapshots are used to preserve the state of KVM virtual machine.<br>
"""<br>
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So we are confusing "LVM Snapshots" with "Live snapshots" don't you think? :)<br>
<br>
They both have different requirements and different goals...<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
<br>
> From: "Gilberto Nunes" <<a href="mailto:gilberto.nunes32@gmail.com">gilberto.nunes32@gmail.com</a>><br>
</div>> To: "Joel S. | VOZELIA" <<a href="mailto:joel@vozelia.com">joel@vozelia.com</a>><br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:pve-user@pve.proxmox.com">pve-user@pve.proxmox.com</a><br>
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 7:30:29 PM<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Fwd: Snapshot<br>
<br>
> Yes... I agree.... But, also, according to this:<br>
<br>
> <a href="https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Live_Snapshots#Requirements" target="_blank">https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Live_Snapshots#Requirements</a><br>
<br>
> If I have a iSCSI Storage that support live snapshot, I am able to take<br>
> snapshot too...<br>
<br>
> Perhaps, this is not the case if I use some kind of software iSCSI, like<br>
> iscsi-target or tgt in a Linux box, such Ubuntu, for example....<br>
<br>
> 2014-07-10 14:24 GMT-03:00 Joel S. | VOZELIA < <a href="mailto:joel@vozelia.com">joel@vozelia.com</a> > :<br>
<br>
> > Hi,<br>
><br>
<br>
> > Check and see this post:<br>
><br>
<br>
> > <a href="http://forum.proxmox.com/threads/11929-VM-snapshots-will-not-work-Backup-works" target="_blank">http://forum.proxmox.com/threads/11929-VM-snapshots-will-not-work-Backup-works</a><br>
><br>
<br>
> > The "Take snapshot" seems to be enabled only on hosts with qcow2 disks...<br>
><br>
<br>
> > ----- Original Message -----<br>
><br>
> > > From: "Joel S. | VOZELIA" < <a href="mailto:joel@vozelia.com">joel@vozelia.com</a> ><br>
><br>
> > > To: "Gilberto Nunes" < <a href="mailto:gilberto.nunes32@gmail.com">gilberto.nunes32@gmail.com</a> ><br>
><br>
> > > Cc: <a href="mailto:pve-user@pve.proxmox.com">pve-user@pve.proxmox.com</a><br>
><br>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 7:16:05 PM<br>
><br>
> > > Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Fwd: Snapshot<br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > Hi,<br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > I use vzdump normally to create snapshots not the GUI, I've just checked<br>
> > > and<br>
><br>
> > > the "Take snapshot" is also disabled for me (not sure why though...).<br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > Try this command:<br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > vzdump --mode snapshot --dumpdir /path/to/some/dir <VMID><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > BR,<br>
><br>
> > > Joel<br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > ----- Original Message -----<br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > From: "Gilberto Nunes" < <a href="mailto:gilberto.nunes32@gmail.com">gilberto.nunes32@gmail.com</a> ><br>
><br>
> > > > To: "Yannis Milios" < <a href="mailto:yannis.milios@gmail.com">yannis.milios@gmail.com</a> ><br>
><br>
> > > > Cc: <a href="mailto:pve-user@pve.proxmox.com">pve-user@pve.proxmox.com</a><br>
><br>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 6:19:41 PM<br>
><br>
> > > > Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Fwd: Snapshot<br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > I make some Google research and found out that IBM Storwize V3700<br>
> > > > support<br>
><br>
> > > > Snapshot...<br>
><br>
> > > > So, I thing that my poor storage solution is wrong in this context....<br>
><br>
> > > > I thing iSCSI storage software do not has snapshot support.... I meant,<br>
> > > > not<br>
><br>
> > > > LVM Snapshot but Live Snapshot...<br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > 2014-07-10 12:49 GMT-03:00 Gilberto Nunes < <a href="mailto:gilberto.nunes32@gmail.com">gilberto.nunes32@gmail.com</a><br>
> > > > ><br>
> > > > :<br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > I don't know... Perhaps I misconfigurate something... But I tried<br>
> > > > > with<br>
><br>
> > > > > another iSCSI Target Software<br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ( Iscsi Enterprise Target - IET ) but still have the same behavior: I<br>
><br>
> > > > > cannot<br>
><br>
> > > > > change disk format...<br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > 2014-07-10 11:54 GMT-03:00 Gilberto Nunes <<br>
> > > > > <a href="mailto:gilberto.nunes32@gmail.com">gilberto.nunes32@gmail.com</a><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > :<br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > Hi Yannis....<br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > I have follow all those steps that you pointed to me on your last<br>
><br>
> > > > > > reply...<br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > Well, in fact, I already do it in other physical server before, but<br>
><br>
> > > > > > without<br>
><br>
> > > > > > success....<br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > When I attempt to create a VM, I cannot choose Format to my VM<br>
> > > > > > disk,<br>
> > > > > > as<br>
><br>
> > > > > > you<br>
><br>
> > > > > > can see bellow:<br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > Some other advices??<br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > Thank you<br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > 2014-07-10 11:31 GMT-03:00 Gilberto Nunes <<br>
> > > > > > <a href="mailto:gilberto.nunes32@gmail.com">gilberto.nunes32@gmail.com</a><br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > :<br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > yep... I just do it right now... But I need to reboot both nodes,<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > because<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > qorum disk go to offline...<br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > I will post results later... Stay tuned =)<br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > 2014-07-10 11:29 GMT-03:00 Yannis Milios <<br>
> > > > > > > <a href="mailto:yannis.milios@gmail.com">yannis.milios@gmail.com</a><br>
> > > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > :<br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > No, they do not.<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > Follow these steps from the wiki:<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > LVM Groups with Network Backing<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > In this configuration, network block devices (iSCSI targets)<br>
> > > > > > > > are<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > used<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > as<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > the<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > physical volumes for LVM logical volume storage. This is a two<br>
> > > > > > > > step<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > procedure and can be fully configured via the web interface.<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > 1. First, add the iSCSI target. (On some iSCSI targets you need<br>
> > > > > > > > to<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > add<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > the<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > IQN of the Proxmox VE server to allow access.)<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > * Click 'Add iSCSI Target' on the Storage list<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > * As storage name use whatever you want but take care, this<br>
> > > > > > > > name<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > cannot<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > be<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > changed later.<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > * Give the 'Portal' IP address or servername and scan for<br>
> > > > > > > > unused<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > targets<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > * disable 'use LUNs direcly'<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > * Click save<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > 2. Second, add LVM group on this target.<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > * Click 'Add LVM Group' on the Storage list<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > * As storage name use whatever you want but take care, this<br>
> > > > > > > > name<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > cannot<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > be<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > changed later.<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > * For 'Base Storage', use the drop down menu to select the<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > previously<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > defined<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > iSCSI target.<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > * For 'Base Volume' select a LUN<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > * For 'Volume Group Name' give a unique name (this name cannot<br>
> > > > > > > > be<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > changed<br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > later).<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > * Enable shared use (recommended)<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > > * Click save<br>
><br>
> > > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > --<br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > > Gilberto Ferreira<br>
><br>
> > > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > --<br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > > Gilberto Ferreira<br>
><br>
> > > > ><br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > --<br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > > > > Gilberto Ferreira<br>
><br>
> > > ><br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
> > > > --<br>
><br>
> > > > Gilberto Ferreira<br>
><br>
> > ><br>
><br>
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> Gilberto Ferreira<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Gilberto Ferreira<br>
</div>