<div dir="ltr"><div>Eneko,</div><div><br></div>VMs are off and results are - I think it was off before too (I have some CentOS containers that are on which I can't turn off - production!):<div><br></div><div><div><font color="#0000ff">CPU BOGOMIPS: 72530.72</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">REGEX/SECOND: 589160</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">HD SIZE: 94.49 GB (/dev/mapper/pve-root)</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">BUFFERED READS: 100.20 MB/sec</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">AVERAGE SEEK TIME: 11.14 ms</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">FSYNCS/SECOND: 19.79</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">DNS EXT: 74.88 ms</font></div></div><div><font color="#0000ff"><br>
</font></div><div><font color="#000000">I am feeling the pain on Windows big time but nothing bad on Containers. </font><b><font color="#ff0000">So far we don't have a conclusion if it's the kernel issue, HDD issue, or controller issue right?</font></b></div>
<div><b><font color="#ff0000"><br></font></b></div><div><b><font color="#ff0000"><br></font></b></div><div><font color="#000000">Info asked is below:</font></div><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><div><font color="#0000ff">root@hp:~# lspci</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 5520 I/O Hub to ESI Port (rev 13)</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev 13)</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">00:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev 13)</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">00:07.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 7 (rev 13)</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">00:09.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 9 (rev 13)</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">00:0a.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub PCI Express Root Port 10 (rev 13)</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">00:14.0 PIC: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub System Management Registers (rev 13)</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">00:14.1 PIC: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub GPIO and Scratch Pad Registers (rev 13)</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">00:14.2 PIC: Intel Corporation 7500/5520/5500/X58 I/O Hub Control Status and RAS Registers (rev 13)</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">00:1a.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Root Port 1</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) PCI Express Root Port 5</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">00:1d.2 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 90)</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801JIR (ICH10R) LPC Interface Controller</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) SATA AHCI Controller</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. MGA G200e [Pilot] ServerEngines (SEP1) (rev 02)</font></div><div><font color="#0000ff">05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82576 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 01)</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">05:00.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82576 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 01)</font></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Regards,</div></div><div>
<font color="#000000"><br></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Eneko Lacunza <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:elacunza@binovo.es" target="_blank">elacunza@binovo.es</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Bruce,<br>
<br>
pveperf is quite bad. From my limited experience, a tipical 7200
rpms SATA drive gives 60 fsync/s and >100 MB/sec buffered
reads. Average seek time is very bad too (~13ms in 7200 rpm
drive). If you had VMs running, please stop them all and rerun the
command.<br>
<br>
You shouldn't used this for virtualization unless this problem is
fixed (you're already feeling the pain eh??)<br>
<br>
What hard disk controller do you have? ('lspci')<div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
On 23/09/13 16:30, Bruce B wrote:<br>
</div></div></div><div><div class="h5">
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<div dir="ltr">Eneko,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks for the feedback. It seems that the whole Windows
system is slow. It happens with loading applications too and
loading start menu for example so if I am understanding this
right, viritio drives which are installed after Windows is
installed may not help me a lot?! Please correct me if I am
wrong. Also how can I build a virtio drive to test it?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><b>Below are results of pveperf. Is this very bad?</b></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">root@hp:~# pveperf</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">CPU BOGOMIPS: 72530.72</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">REGEX/SECOND: 583443</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">HD SIZE: 94.49 GB
(/dev/mapper/pve-root)</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">BUFFERED READS: 61.13 MB/sec</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">AVERAGE SEEK TIME: 29.30 ms</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">FSYNCS/SECOND: 9.63</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">DNS EXT: 70.07 ms</font></div>
<div><br>
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<div>
Regards,</div>
</div>
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<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Eneko
Lacunza <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:elacunza@binovo.es" target="_blank">elacunza@binovo.es</a>></span>
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<div>Hi Bruce,<br>
<br>
pveperf on the disk (/) ?<br>
<br>
If you haven't, I think it will help you a lot
installing virtio drivers on the Windows guest, then
changing VM disks from ide to virtio.
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
On 22/09/13 22:20, Bruce B wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Thanks for feedback Krzysztof and
Alexandre. Below are the info:
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am using 1x 500GB WD HDD. I can add another
one if that helps - something like: WD5001AALS.
Would that help? Where do you read the IOPS? and
what is a good number of IOPS today?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>For VM I am using LOCAL QCOW2 - not sure how
virtio drives work.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Hoping following info help you tell me if I
am hitting a controller bottleneck (meaning I
can't help it) or if it is an HDD problem:</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div><font color="#0000ff"> *-storage</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
description: SATA controller</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff"> product:
82801JI (ICH10 Family) SATA AHCI Controller</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff"> vendor:
Intel Corporation</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff"> physical
id: 1f.2</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff"> bus
info: <a href="mailto:pci@0000:00:1f.2" target="_blank">pci@0000:00:1f.2</a></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff"> logical
name: scsi0</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff"> version:
00</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff"> width:
32 bits</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff"> clock:
66MHz</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
capabilities: storage msi pm ahci_1.0
bus_master cap_list emulated</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
configuration: driver=ahci latency=0</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
resources: irq:50 ioport:d880(size=8)
ioport:d800(size=4) ioport:d480(size=8)
ioport:d400(size=4) ioport:d080(size=32)
memory:faffc000-faffc7ff</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff"> *-disk</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
description: ATA Disk</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
product: WDC WD5001AALS-0</font></div>
<div> <font color="#0000ff">
vendor: Western Digital</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
physical id: 0.0.0</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff"> bus
info: <a href="mailto:scsi@0:0.0.0" target="_blank">scsi@0:0.0.0</a></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
logical name: /dev/sda</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
version: 05.0</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
serial: WD-WCATR2413417</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff"> size:
465GiB (500GB)</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
configuration: ansiversion=5 sectorsize=512
signature=00064f12</font></div>
<div> <font color="#0000ff">
*-volume:0</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
description: EXT3 volume</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
vendor: Linux</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
physical id: 1</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
bus info: <a href="mailto:scsi@0:0.0.0,1" target="_blank">scsi@0:0.0.0,1</a></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
logical name: /dev/sda1</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
logical name: /boot</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
version: 1.0</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
serial:
8fe2447e-4258-4d39-b7c7-450b66460abf</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
size: 511MiB</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
capacity: 511MiB</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
capabilities: primary bootable journaled
extended_attributes recover ext3 ext2
initialized</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
configuration: created=2013-08-06 16:38:36
filesystem=ext3 modified=2013-08-09 17:14:18
mount.fstype=ext3
mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=continue,user_xattr,acl,barrier=0,data=ordered
mounted=2013-08-09 17:14:18 state=mounted</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
*-volume:1</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
description: Linux LVM Physical Volume
partition</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
physical id: 2</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
bus info: <a href="mailto:scsi@0:0.0.0,2" target="_blank">scsi@0:0.0.0,2</a></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
logical name: /dev/sda2</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
serial:
pqnaJf-WL5Q-kz2z-a3CJ-f6rS-Jxz4-LICwof</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
size: 465GiB</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
capacity: 465GiB</font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff">
capabilities: primary multi lvm2</font></div>
</div>
<div><br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks,<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at
6:07 AM, Krzysztof Bloniarz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kb0spam@gmail.com" target="_blank">kb0spam@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Bruce,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Could you confirm that you are using
one 500GB SATA drive as your storage ?</div>
<div>How many VMs are running on this
drive ?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This SATA drive is capable of 60 IOPS
maybe 70IOPS, you can easily saturate
this installing windows apps,
particularly if you run simultaneous VMs
on that drive </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>To solve your 'performace' problems
you have to build RAID and add more
spindles.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Regards,</div>
<div>KB</div>
<div> </div>
</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">
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<div> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 8:33 PM,
Bruce B <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bruceb444@gmail.com" target="_blank">bruceb444@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">Hi Everyone,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I am seeing very slow
install of applications within
a Windows 2008R2 VM that I
built with 24Gbs of RAM (no
users on it yet) and the
Proxmox server is a DL160 G6
with Dual L5520 Xeon quad core
CPUs. I don't see why this is
acting so slow. I am looking
for suggestions on how to make
this work faster. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Below are my findings of IO
stats and HDD specifications.
I would like to know if there
is any hope to this server. I
am running Windows 2008 R2 in
IDE0 and QCOW mode.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div><font color="#ff0000"><b>root@hp:~#
iostat -xkd 2 (util
shows over 97% below as
a program is being
installed)</b></font></div>
<div>Linux 2.6.32-22-pve (hp)
09/20/2013
_x86_64_ (16 CPU)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Device: rrqm/s
wrqm/s r/s w/s
rkB/s wkB/s avgrq-sz
avgqu-sz await r_await
w_await svctm %util<br>
</div>
<div>sda 0.00
13.50 0.00 94.50
0.00 9023.25 190.97
2.41 25.43 0.00 25.43
10.32 97.50</div>
<div>dm-0 0.00
0.00 0.00 13.00
0.00 52.00 8.00
0.70 54.15 0.00 54.15
6.77 8.80</div>
<div>dm-1 0.00
0.00 0.00 0.00
0.00 0.00 0.00
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
0.00 0.00</div>
<div>dm-2 0.00
0.00 0.00 95.00
0.00 8913.25 187.65
2.29 24.12 0.00 24.12
10.24 97.30</div>
</div>
<div><br>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div><font color="#ff0000"><b>hdparm
output:</b></font></div>
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ATA device, with non-removable media
Model Number: WDC WD5001AALS-00E3A0
Serial Number: WD-WCATR2413417
Firmware Revision: 05.01D05
Transport: Serial, SATA 1.0a, SATA II Extensions, SATA Rev 2.5, SATA Rev 2.6
Standards:
Supported: 8 7 6 5
Likely used: 8
Configuration:
Logical max current
cylinders 16383 16383
heads 16 16
sectors/track 63 63
--
CHS current addressable sectors: 16514064
LBA user addressable sectors: 268435455
LBA48 user addressable sectors: 976773168
Logical/Physical Sector size: 512 bytes
device size with M = 1024*1024: 476940 MBytes
device size with M = 1000*1000: 500107 MBytes (500 GB)
cache/buffer size = unknown
Capabilities:
LBA, IORDY(can be disabled)
Queue depth: 32
Standby timer values: spec'd by Standard, with device specific minimum
R/W multiple sector transfer: Max = 16 Current = 0
Recommended acoustic management value: 128, current value: 254
DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6
Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns
PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
Cycle time: no flow control=120ns IORDY flow control=120ns
Commands/features:
Enabled Supported:
* SMART feature set
Security Mode feature set
* Power Management feature set
Write cache
* Look-ahead
* Host Protected Area feature set
* WRITE_BUFFER command
* READ_BUFFER command
* NOP cmd
* DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE
Power-Up In Standby feature set
* SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
SET_MAX security extension
Automatic Acoustic Management feature set
* 48-bit Address feature set
* Device Configuration Overlay feature set
* Mandatory FLUSH_CACHE
* FLUSH_CACHE_EXT
* SMART error logging
* SMART self-test
* General Purpose Logging feature set
* 64-bit World wide name
* {READ,WRITE}_DMA_EXT_GPL commands
* Segmented DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE
* Gen1 signaling speed (1.5Gb/s)
* Gen2 signaling speed (3.0Gb/s)
* Native Command Queueing (NCQ)
* Host-initiated interface power management
* Phy event counters
* NCQ priority information
* DMA Setup Auto-Activate optimization
* Software settings preservation
* SMART Command Transport (SCT) feature set
* SCT Long Sector Access (AC1)
* SCT LBA Segment Access (AC2)
* SCT Features Control (AC4)
* SCT Data Tables (AC5)
unknown 206[12] (vendor specific)
unknown 206[13] (vendor specific)
Security:
Master password revision code = 65534
supported
not enabled
not locked
not frozen
not expired: security count
supported: enhanced erase
102min for SECURITY ERASE UNIT. 102min for ENHANCED SECURITY ERASE UNIT.
Logical Unit WWN Device Identifier: 50014ee2af8fec40
NAA : 5
IEEE OUI : 0014ee
Unique ID : 2af8fec40</pre>
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