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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Bruce,<br>
      <br>
      pveperf is quite bad. From my limited experience, a tipical 7200
      rpms SATA drive gives 60 fsync/s and >100 MB/sec buffered
      reads. Average seek time is very bad too (~13ms in 7200 rpm
      drive). If you had VMs running, please stop them all and rerun the
      command.<br>
      <br>
      You shouldn't used this for virtualization unless this problem is
      fixed (you're already feeling the pain eh??)<br>
      <br>
      What hard disk controller do you have? ('lspci')<br>
      <br>
      On 23/09/13 16:30, Bruce B wrote:<br>
    </div>
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cite="mid:CAJyE_uXjF333CsrCpOn_j+wYHxLDE0W0t2xSjhnU+q_NW_NPGg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Eneko,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Thanks for the feedback. It seems that the whole Windows
          system is slow. It happens with loading applications too and
          loading start menu for example so if I am understanding this
          right, viritio drives which are installed after Windows is
          installed may not help me a lot?! Please correct me if I am
          wrong. Also how can I build a virtio drive to test it?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><b>Below are results of pveperf. Is this very bad?</b></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>
          <div><font color="#0000ff">root@hp:~# pveperf</font></div>
          <div><font color="#0000ff">CPU BOGOMIPS:      72530.72</font></div>
          <div><font color="#0000ff">REGEX/SECOND:      583443</font></div>
          <div><font color="#0000ff">HD SIZE:           94.49 GB
              (/dev/mapper/pve-root)</font></div>
          <div><font color="#0000ff">BUFFERED READS:    61.13 MB/sec</font></div>
          <div><font color="#0000ff">AVERAGE SEEK TIME: 29.30 ms</font></div>
          <div><font color="#0000ff">FSYNCS/SECOND:     9.63</font></div>
          <div><font color="#0000ff">DNS EXT:           70.07 ms</font></div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
        </div>
        <div>
          Regards,</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Eneko
          Lacunza <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:elacunza@binovo.es" target="_blank">elacunza@binovo.es</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div>Hi Bruce,<br>
                <br>
                pveperf on the disk (/) ?<br>
                <br>
                If you haven't, I think it will help you a lot
                installing virtio drivers on the Windows guest, then
                changing VM disks from ide to virtio.
                <div>
                  <div class="h5"><br>
                    <br>
                    On 22/09/13 22:20, Bruce B wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
              <div>
                <div class="h5">
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div dir="ltr">Thanks for feedback Krzysztof and
                      Alexandre. Below are the info:
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>I am using 1x 500GB WD HDD. I can add another
                        one if that helps - something like: WD5001AALS.
                        Would that help? Where do you read the IOPS? and
                        what is a good number of IOPS today?</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>For VM I am using LOCAL QCOW2 - not sure how
                        virtio drives work.</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Hoping following info help you tell me if I
                        am hitting a controller bottleneck (meaning I
                        can't help it) or if it is an HDD problem:</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">        *-storage</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">           
                             description: SATA controller</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">             product:
                            82801JI (ICH10 Family) SATA AHCI Controller</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">             vendor:
                            Intel Corporation</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">             physical
                            id: 1f.2</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">             bus
                            info: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:pci@0000:00:1f.2"
                              target="_blank">pci@0000:00:1f.2</a></font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">             logical
                            name: scsi0</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">             version:
                            00</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">             width:
                            32 bits</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">             clock:
                            66MHz</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">           
                             capabilities: storage msi pm ahci_1.0
                            bus_master cap_list emulated</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">           
                             configuration: driver=ahci latency=0</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">           
                             resources: irq:50 ioport:d880(size=8)
                            ioport:d800(size=4) ioport:d480(size=8)
                            ioport:d400(size=4) ioport:d080(size=32)
                            memory:faffc000-faffc7ff</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">           *-disk</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">               
                            description: ATA Disk</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">               
                            product: WDC WD5001AALS-0</font></div>
                        <div> <font color="#0000ff">               
                            vendor: Western Digital</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">               
                            physical id: 0.0.0</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                bus
                            info: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:scsi@0:0.0.0" target="_blank">scsi@0:0.0.0</a></font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">               
                            logical name: /dev/sda</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">               
                            version: 05.0</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">               
                            serial: WD-WCATR2413417</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                size:
                            465GiB (500GB)</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">               
                            capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">               
                            configuration: ansiversion=5 sectorsize=512
                            signature=00064f12</font></div>
                        <div> <font color="#0000ff">             
                            *-volume:0</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             description: EXT3 volume</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             vendor: Linux</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             physical id: 1</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             bus info: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:scsi@0:0.0.0,1"
                              target="_blank">scsi@0:0.0.0,1</a></font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             logical name: /dev/sda1</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             logical name: /boot</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             version: 1.0</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             serial:
                            8fe2447e-4258-4d39-b7c7-450b66460abf</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             size: 511MiB</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             capacity: 511MiB</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             capabilities: primary bootable journaled
                            extended_attributes recover ext3 ext2
                            initialized</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             configuration: created=2013-08-06 16:38:36
                            filesystem=ext3 modified=2013-08-09 17:14:18
                            mount.fstype=ext3
                            mount.options=rw,relatime,errors=continue,user_xattr,acl,barrier=0,data=ordered

                            mounted=2013-08-09 17:14:18 state=mounted</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">             
                            *-volume:1</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             description: Linux LVM Physical Volume
                            partition</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             physical id: 2</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             bus info: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:scsi@0:0.0.0,2"
                              target="_blank">scsi@0:0.0.0,2</a></font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             logical name: /dev/sda2</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             serial:
                            pqnaJf-WL5Q-kz2z-a3CJ-f6rS-Jxz4-LICwof</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             size: 465GiB</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             capacity: 465GiB</font></div>
                        <div><font color="#0000ff">                 
                             capabilities: primary multi lvm2</font></div>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="gmail_extra">Thanks,<br>
                        <br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at
                          6:07 AM, Krzysztof Bloniarz <span dir="ltr"><<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:kb0spam@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank">kb0spam@gmail.com</a>></span>
                          wrote:<br>
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                            <div dir="ltr">Hi Bruce,
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Could you confirm that  you are using
                                one 500GB SATA drive as your storage ?</div>
                              <div>How many VMs are running on this
                                drive ?</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>This SATA drive is capable of 60 IOPS
                                maybe 70IOPS, you can easily saturate
                                this installing windows apps,
                                particularly if you run simultaneous VMs
                                on that drive </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>To solve your 'performace' problems
                                you have to build RAID and add more
                                spindles.</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Regards,</div>
                              <div>KB</div>
                              <div> </div>
                            </div>
                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                              <br>
                              <div class="gmail_quote">
                                <div>
                                  <div> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 8:33 PM,
                                    Bruce B <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:bruceb444@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">bruceb444@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                    wrote:<br>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
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                                    <div>
                                      <div dir="ltr">Hi Everyone,
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>I am seeing very slow
                                          install of applications within
                                          a Windows 2008R2 VM that I
                                          built with 24Gbs of RAM (no
                                          users on it yet) and the
                                          Proxmox server is a DL160 G6
                                          with Dual L5520 Xeon quad core
                                          CPUs. I don't see why this is
                                          acting so slow. I am looking
                                          for suggestions on how to make
                                          this work faster. </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>Below are my findings of IO
                                          stats and HDD specifications.
                                          I would like to know if there
                                          is any hope to this server. I
                                          am running Windows 2008 R2 in
                                          IDE0 and QCOW mode.</div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div><font color="#ff0000"><b>root@hp:~#

                                                iostat -xkd 2     (util
                                                shows over 97% below as
                                                a program is being
                                                installed)</b></font></div>
                                          <div>Linux 2.6.32-22-pve (hp)
                                                   09/20/2013    
                                             _x86_64_        (16 CPU)</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Device:         rrqm/s  
                                            wrqm/s     r/s     w/s  
                                             rkB/s    wkB/s avgrq-sz
                                            avgqu-sz   await r_await
                                            w_await  svctm  %util<br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>sda               0.00  
                                             13.50    0.00   94.50    
                                            0.00  9023.25   190.97    
                                            2.41   25.43    0.00   25.43
                                             10.32  97.50</div>
                                          <div>dm-0              0.00  
                                              0.00    0.00   13.00    
                                            0.00    52.00     8.00    
                                            0.70   54.15    0.00   54.15
                                              6.77   8.80</div>
                                          <div>dm-1              0.00  
                                              0.00    0.00    0.00    
                                            0.00     0.00     0.00    
                                            0.00    0.00    0.00    0.00
                                              0.00   0.00</div>
                                          <div>dm-2              0.00  
                                              0.00    0.00   95.00    
                                            0.00  8913.25   187.65    
                                            2.29   24.12    0.00   24.12
                                             10.24  97.30</div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div><font color="#ff0000"><b>hdparm
                                              output:</b></font></div>
                                        <div>
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ATA device, with non-removable media
        Model Number:       WDC WD5001AALS-00E3A0                   
        Serial Number:      WD-WCATR2413417
        Firmware Revision:  05.01D05
        Transport:          Serial, SATA 1.0a, SATA II Extensions, SATA Rev 2.5, SATA Rev 2.6
Standards:
        Supported: 8 7 6 5 
        Likely used: 8
Configuration:
        Logical         max     current
        cylinders       16383   16383
        heads           16      16
        sectors/track   63      63
        --
        CHS current addressable sectors:   16514064
        LBA    user addressable sectors:  268435455
        LBA48  user addressable sectors:  976773168
        Logical/Physical Sector size:           512 bytes
        device size with M = 1024*1024:      476940 MBytes
        device size with M = 1000*1000:      500107 MBytes (500 GB)
        cache/buffer size  = unknown
Capabilities:
        LBA, IORDY(can be disabled)
        Queue depth: 32
        Standby timer values: spec'd by Standard, with device specific minimum
        R/W multiple sector transfer: Max = 16  Current = 0
        Recommended acoustic management value: 128, current value: 254
        DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 udma5 *udma6 
             Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns
        PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 
             Cycle time: no flow control=120ns  IORDY flow control=120ns
Commands/features:
        Enabled Supported:
           *    SMART feature set
                Security Mode feature set
           *    Power Management feature set
                Write cache
           *    Look-ahead
           *    Host Protected Area feature set
           *    WRITE_BUFFER command
           *    READ_BUFFER command
           *    NOP cmd
           *    DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE
                Power-Up In Standby feature set
           *    SET_FEATURES required to spinup after power up
                SET_MAX security extension
                Automatic Acoustic Management feature set
           *    48-bit Address feature set
           *    Device Configuration Overlay feature set
           *    Mandatory FLUSH_CACHE
           *    FLUSH_CACHE_EXT
           *    SMART error logging
           *    SMART self-test
           *    General Purpose Logging feature set
           *    64-bit World wide name
           *    {READ,WRITE}_DMA_EXT_GPL commands
           *    Segmented DOWNLOAD_MICROCODE
           *    Gen1 signaling speed (1.5Gb/s)
           *    Gen2 signaling speed (3.0Gb/s)
           *    Native Command Queueing (NCQ)
           *    Host-initiated interface power management
           *    Phy event counters
           *    NCQ priority information
           *    DMA Setup Auto-Activate optimization
           *    Software settings preservation
           *    SMART Command Transport (SCT) feature set
           *    SCT Long Sector Access (AC1)
           *    SCT LBA Segment Access (AC2)
           *    SCT Features Control (AC4)
           *    SCT Data Tables (AC5)
                unknown 206[12] (vendor specific)
                unknown 206[13] (vendor specific)
Security: 
        Master password revision code = 65534
                supported
        not     enabled
        not     locked
        not     frozen
        not     expired: security count
                supported: enhanced erase
        102min for SECURITY ERASE UNIT. 102min for ENHANCED SECURITY ERASE UNIT. 
Logical Unit WWN Device Identifier: 50014ee2af8fec40
        NAA             : 5
        IEEE OUI        : 0014ee
        Unique ID       : 2af8fec40</pre>
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