<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Conrad Maayen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:conrad@maayen.nl">conrad@maayen.nl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<p> </p><p>Same here, using Proxmox in produxion on Dell, HP Proliant and for a few months on Acer Altos,</p><p>no issues at all.</p><p><br>Our company, 200 users, used to use Redhat and Centos in the passed, but at the moment we more and more use Debian</p>
<p>on our servers and i do not understand why you think it is not Ent. ready. I have a lot more faith in Debian than Centos,</p><p>but i think it is more a personal matter. I think it's not fair to blame an OS if the problem is maybe more you're own knowledge.</p>
<p> </p><p>Why do you think that projects like eg. Vyatta choose Debian?</p><p>I have used Xen for a about a year, but so far Proxmox (openvz and kvm) is very competitve.</p><p> </p><p>Conrad</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(50, 95, 186); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px;">
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----<br><br>>> I had to abandon Prxmox VE because of similar issues, including memory<br>>> running out on an openvz container. But I believe the main issue is<br>>> Debian,<br>
>> <br>><br>> [Martin Maurer] <br>> The main issue is for sure not Debian. KVM is currently under heavy development and there is fast progress in stability from week to week. For most people it is quite useable already but I agree KVM could be more stable especially for windows multiprocessor guests and virtio (also I am waiting for the windows virtio block drivers). <br>
><br>> <br>>> because Dell does not support Debian and the drivers, in my opinion, are<br>>> not<br>>> the same quality of the Red Hat (Centos) or Suse drivers, which are<br>>> supported. So Proxmox should have chosen a better underlying OS, instead<br>
>> of<br>>> Debian. Now look at this: in a corporation we only buy Dell, HP or IBm<br>>> servers, because they do have 4 hour hardware response support. Not even<br>>> Supermicro gets in. Proxmox has a great product but it should run on an<br>
>> enterprise-class OS. I spent two days with Dell trying to install the<br>>> Hardware Manager on Debian, to see of there are issues with memory,<br>>> processor or disks, and Dell could not make it work. You cannot deploy a<br>
>> machine on a rack that you cannot manage.<br>>> Federico<br>>> <br>><br>> Dell has no management software for deb based systems (Debian/Ubuntu) and that’s why you think Proxmox choose the wrong distro? You should blame Dell that they do not support a huge part of the Linux market. But as far as I know, they are working to support Ubuntu which is more or less identical to Debian/Proxmox VE Kernels.<br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br>Debian not enterprise ready?<br>are you joking?<br><br>Been using debian in several Dell, HP, Sun servers running for years<br>The only difference I see between Debian and Red Hat it's the paid support.<br>
Although I have nothing against Red hat, it's great also.<br>PVE runs smoothly on a couple Dell 1950's also without any issue.<br><br>As someone stated before try using only one virtual processor using KVM.<br><br clear="all">
Cheers.<br><br>-- <br>"It is human nature to think wisely and act in an absurd fashion."<br><br>"Todo el desorden del mundo proviene de las profesiones mal o mediocremente servidas"<br>