<html><body><div style="font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000"><div><span style="color: #000000; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: #ffffff;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: #ffffff;">>>We're currently implementing our own backup system which uses the</span><br style="color: #000000; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #000000; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: #ffffff;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: #ffffff;">>>drive-backup qmp routine to dump qcow2. We don't need the config files.</span><br style="color: #000000; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: #ffffff;"><span style="color: #000000; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: #ffffff;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: #ffffff;">>>And this works with ceph and 4MB cluster size.</span><br></div><div><span style="color: #000000; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: #ffffff;" data-mce-style="color: #000000; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13.3333px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 1; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; display: inline !important; float: none; background-color: #ffffff;"><br data-mce-bogus="1"></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;">How about speed performance (64K,4MB) and stability vs proxmox vma format ?</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;"><br data-mce-bogus="1"></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;">I'm curious, because I still fear to use proxmox feature when I see all the stability bugs reports on the forum.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;">And I would like to test incremental backup too. (only full backup is not possible for me)</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;"><br data-mce-bogus="1"></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;"><br data-mce-bogus="1"></span></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br></div><div data-marker="__SIG_PRE__"><table cellpadding="0" border="0" class="MsoNormalTable" style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';" data-mce-style="font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 0cm;" data-mce-style="padding: 0cm;"><p><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;" data-mce-style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: #1f497d;"><img width="211" height="150" src="http://www.odiso.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/odiso.png" data-mce-src="http://www.odiso.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/odiso.png"></span></p></td><td width="100%" style="width: 1679px; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;" data-mce-style="width: 1679px; padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;"><table cellspacing="4" cellpadding="0" border="0" class="MsoNormalTable"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 3pt;" data-mce-style="padding: 3pt;"><p><b><span style="font-size: 12.5pt; 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We already tested it - it just does not work with VMA. We<br>>>> need to dump qcow2 files cause vma is crashing when the clustersize it<br>>>> get's is not 64kb.<br>> <br>> How do you backup to qcow2 ?<br><br>We're currently implementing our own backup system which uses the<br>drive-backup qmp routine to dump qcow2. We don't need the config files.<br>And this works with ceph and 4MB cluster size.<br><br>Greets,<br>Stefan<br><br>> ----- Mail original -----<br>> De: "Stefan Priebe" <s.priebe@profihost.ag><br>> À: "pve-devel" <pve-devel@pve.proxmox.com>, "dietmar" <dietmar@proxmox.com><br>> Envoyé: Mardi 1 Mars 2016 11:55:21<br>> Objet: Re: [pve-devel] Speed up PVE Backup<br>> <br>> ) <br>> <br>> Am 01.03.2016 um 11:03 schrieb Alexandre DERUMIER: <br>>> Hi, qemu devs have send patches to configure backup cluster size: <br>>><br>>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2016-02/msg06062.html <br>>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2016-02/msg06064.html <br>>><br>>><br>>> Could be great to see if it's improve ceph backup performance. <br>> <br>> Yes it does. We already tested it - it just does not work with VMA. We <br>> need to dump qcow2 files cause vma is crashing when the clustersize it <br>> get's is not 64kb. <br>> <br>>><br>>><br>>> ----- Mail original ----- <br>>> De: "dietmar" <dietmar@proxmox.com> <br>>> À: "aderumier" <aderumier@odiso.com>, "pve-devel" <pve-devel@pve.proxmox.com> <br>>> Envoyé: Vendredi 19 Février 2016 09:17:14 <br>>> Objet: Re: [pve-devel] Speed up PVE Backup <br>>><br>>>> I wonder how perform the native qemu backup blockjob vs proxmox vma backup <br>>>> format ? <br>>><br>>> We use the qemu backup blockjob, just slightly modified... <br>>> _______________________________________________ <br>>> pve-devel mailing list <br>>> pve-devel@pve.proxmox.com <br>>> http://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-devel <br>>><br>> _______________________________________________ <br>> pve-devel mailing list <br>> pve-devel@pve.proxmox.com <br>> http://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-devel <br>> _______________________________________________<br>> pve-devel mailing list<br>> pve-devel@pve.proxmox.com<br>> http://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-devel<br>> <br>_______________________________________________<br>pve-devel mailing list<br>pve-devel@pve.proxmox.com<br>http://pve.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-devel<br></div></div></body></html>